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Reading through this topic illustrates the truth of that old adage, “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.  In other words we're all a bunch of awkward tossers.

Personally I don't have an issue with any of the commentators, or pundits, if they get tiring just switch 'em off.

My only minor gripe is that I'd like to see more pundits used rather than the same old regulars, but logistics, and COVID currently, may make this difficult.  I always think Van der Laan talks sense and comes across well whenever he's on..

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A clip of Bowers just got tweeted by the Accidental Partridge twitter account.    

One person who I really can't stand is that Stokie woman they have in the studio. Mrs Mogadon. Just such a boring flat delivery to everything she says.

I used to enjoy Ray's commentary. As a miserable bugger myself I felt I could identify with him.

On 01/02/2021 at 18:30, ELDERBEZZA said:

Before we criticise take a listen to some of the dross around the country 🤔Some Ive listened to make John Abberley sound like Motty😅😅

When we played FGR Radio Gloucester went rabbiting on for about 20+ minutes without actually saying what the score was . Pretty <ovf censored> for a live game.

Talking of which Phil Bowers comes out with some right dross. He was getting wound up about the ref not booking the lad who felled Dave and the ref was standing there with a yellow card in his hand. 
 

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I tend to follow the home team on ifollow so as to find out the current news for Vale and to see what the opposition think of us on our travels. It's a bit mixed as some of the commentary is quite knowledgeable and at the other end of the spectrum it seems like they have placed the microphone in front of some old chap who has unscrewed his flask and is talking to his mate. Heaven knows what they thought of the Radio Stoke guy who was really riled that he didn't spot Crookes knocking it over the line if they do likewise.

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I am ok with commentary by all those who appear on ifollow. An issue is they have a poor view and sometimes are fundamentally wrong in their call about events. They don't have the advantage of replays either. But someone soon contacts them and points out their mistake. 

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I think in light of Covid the Beeb may well think do we need 92 lots of commentators.

Is there an actual necessity for 2 or 3 people to travel from say Plymouth to Fleetwood when commentators are already in the Fleetwood area , and i mean in normal times not now there are restrictions in place.

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9 hours ago, Warren said:

An issue is they have a poor view 

I think that's a good point. Vale must have one of the worst commentary positions in the League. It's relatively low down, can be obscured by fans (when they are in the ground) and in a corner. 

I know there's the cost of moving the ISDN lines and so on to take onboard  but surely the logical position for the media would be up in the Gods next to where the TV camera is. Anyone who's done match sponsorship will know what a great view the Presidents seating gives for a game, it's high up and on the half-way line. 

If money was no object then putting them above the Presidents seating would be an obvious move. Who on earth OK'ed the original decision to put the media where they are now though?

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14 hours ago, Guitar Ray said:

Reading through this topic illustrates the truth of that old adage, “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.  In other words we're all a bunch of awkward tossers.

Personally I don't have an issue with any of the commentators, or pundits, if they get tiring just switch 'em off.

My only minor gripe is that I'd like to see more pundits used rather than the same old regulars, but logistics, and COVID currently, may make this difficult.  I always think Van der Laan talks sense and comes across well whenever he's on..

i think abraham lincoln said that, its been my dream if i could be in yours. bob dylan said that.😇

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4 hours ago, geoff1 said:

i think abraham lincoln said that, its been my dream if i could be in yours. bob dylan said that.😇

Any idea who coined the phrase, "Don't let the barstewards grind you down"?  Which happens to be my own personal mantra.

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38 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:

Any idea who coined the phrase, "Don't let the barstewards grind you down"?  Which happens to be my own personal mantra.

yes , that would be bob! 😊

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On 02/02/2021 at 09:56, robf said:

Blimey, does no-one on here ever make mistakes? We all have the advantage of the stream and replays. Those guys don't (dunno why but them's the rules) and were stuck in a corner of the LS miles away from a goalmouth scramble at the Hamil End and with a load of players obscuring the view between them and the Vale player who poked the ball in. They have to give an instant judgement call on who they think scored. They then acknowledged their mistake and corrected it. 

I do agree . 

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Birchall is good as summariser.

Bowers in the best of the bunch but goes a bit off tangent a lot!

Sandoz and Blakeman just seem to revel in any kind of Vale misfortune.

Actually thats being nice, Blakeman is just a massive .

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2 hours ago, geoff1 said:

yes , that would be bob! 😊

Can you pin it down though Geoff? Was it Monkhouse, Holness or Carolgees?  I can't see it being the smarmy faced Monkhouse somehow.  I think it was Carolgees, possibly via the medium of his alter ego, Spit the Dog.

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What happened to ray Williams , he was the best summariser for me, others will obviously disagree. Did radio stoke just dump him , he was gone well before lockdown one , does he still post on one vale fan? 

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On 01/02/2021 at 22:07, Gungho_ED said:

There's not really a bad one who commentates on Vale 

Unlike Stokes commentary when Micky Pejic is on who just states the bleedin obvious, can't get players names anything like right and sounds like a right thick pig

i wouldnt say that to his face pal🤐

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