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2 minutes ago, TylerB said:

Not this afternoon. But on the whole he's been found somewhat wanting. Certainly isn't someone to count on for next season.

People would do to remeber he was brought in as back up, not as first choice.  Injury to Gibbo forced us to play him.  Same with Fitz.

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@Phil B Phil, these comments come every week from a wide range of people. Sproson annoys the fans week in week out. Someone on RS needs to man up and admit on air why you let an incredibly biased

Just thought that Sproson comes across like a football dad who only wants to support his own kid during a game

Having someone on commentary who is the agent for some of the players makes the points completely biased and stupid

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1 minute ago, Bob Newtonian said:

I ll agree with you on Whitehead but Joyce is decent and Burgess can be used as cover and is still the right age to improve...

Joyce I don't have a problem with. He offers experience and a steady head. Burgess has been toss though this season after a promising debut campaign. Still alright as backup to Conlon/Taylor though.

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James Gibbons posted a picture on twitter a while back, in which people were asked to post a memory of 2020 when they were 'completely happy, nothing else mattered in that moment'.

He posted this. Not even his goal. Love everything about him. What a 45 from him. Not even sure what my point is. Just like James Gibbons. Up the Vale.

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1 minute ago, Guitar Ray said:

People would do to remeber he was brought in as back up, not as first choice.  Injury to Gibbo forced us to play him.  Same with Fitz.

True. I just like a full-back to have a bit of pace as they're often up against quick wide players. Mills is painfully slow.

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3 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Crookes got a goal and didn't play poorly but he's still not an EFL standard centre half. Heading lacks direction and power. Not convinced with him at all.

Sproson won't mention that though, and that's why he shouldn't be commentating.

Crookes has to improve I agree but I thought taking young players from bigger clubs and improving them was what we wanted to do... we cant say that and then write young players off all the time. 
I don’t think he s as bad as people make out when he’s played as a left sided centre half... always good to have a natural left footer on   1 side of a back 2 or 3. 

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4 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Crookes got a goal and didn't play poorly but he's still not an EFL standard centre half. Heading lacks direction and power. Not convinced with him at all.

Sproson won't mention that though, and that's why he shouldn't be commentating.

Again, Crookes should be judged for what he is, a back up CB.  Likely he'll be playing now though unless Brisley is OK, Legge is recalled or we sign another player in that position before the deadline.

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2 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:

Again, Crookes should be judged for what he is, a back up CB.  Likely he'll be playing now though unless Brisley is OK, Legge is recalled or we sign another player in that position before the deadline.

Backups should be at least league standard, if you want to achieve anything. I don't think any of Crookes, Fitzpatrick, or Mills are, unfortunately. Hopefully we don't have to start them much again.

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Wonder if the new manager will bring back Legge? Interesting times at Vale Park come next week.  

Who ever comes in good luck and hope you take Vale up the league and get promotions that all Vale fans dream of.

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Well done, lads. What a great performance even allowing for a more subdued second half. Still, it was a rout, and poor Southend team or not, you still have to beat what's in front of you.

Our new manager will surely have enjoyed that. The substitutes will tell him that, once our better players (Gibbo, Monty and Worrall) have left the match, we look distinctly second rate. It will also tell him that we have some very good players - the core of a good team - and some outstanding talent coming through in Rodney and Hurst (though he was a bit quiet today on the right). 

As for Southend, what a bunch of hopeless cloggers. Looks to me that they will be deservedly relegated to the National. Just hope that Grimsby can escape and be replaced by the hapless Stevenage.

Finally, a word for the referee who was worse than useless, letting Southend get away with foul after foul. It's a good job that there were no police in the ground because they might have intervened and arrested Hobson, their brutal centre half, for attempted GBH on Devante and Kurtiss. The only good that can be said of the ref is that when he turns up we see plenty of goals.

Anyway, enough negativity. Great game, great result and everything to look forward to.

UTV - time for a few snifters 😀.

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1 minute ago, PVFC764 said:

Wonder if the new manager will bring back Legge? Interesting times at Vale Park come next week.  

Who ever comes in good luck and hope you take Vale up the league and get promotions that all Vale fans dream of.

Should really go with Crookes if we are serious about developing young players... if not then just play Legge and carry on like we have done for the past 10 years.. bloody awful.

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Just now, Joe B said:

Backups should be at least league standard. I don't think any of Crookes, Fitzpatrick, or Mills are, unfortunately. Hopefully we don't have to start them much again.

I'd beg to differ with your first point, but totally agree with your second.  Ideally we'd have some young prospects waiting in the wings but we aren't currently in a position to do that.

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Just now, Guitar Ray said:

I'd beg to differ with your first point, but totally agree with your second.  Ideally we'd have some young prospects waiting in the wings but we aren't currently in a position to do that.

That's fair. Begging Monty isn't injured again as the width he provides is so, so important.

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Well done, lads. What a great performance even allowing for a more subdued second half. Still, it was a rout, and poor Southend team or not, you still have to beat what's in front of you.
Our new manager will surely have enjoyed that. The substitutes will tell him that, once our better players (Gibbo, Monty and Worrall) have left the match, we look distinctly second rate. It will also tell him that we have some very good players - the core of a good team - and some outstanding talent coming through in Rodney and Hurst (though he was a bit quiet today on the right). 
As for Southend, what a bunch of hopeless cloggers. Looks to me that they will be deservedly relegated to the National. Just hope that Grimsby can escape and be replaced by the hapless Stevenage.
Finally, a word for the referee who was worse than useless, letting Southend get away with foul after foul. It's a good job that there were no police in the ground because they might have intervened and arrested Hobson, their brutal centre half, for attempted GBH on Devante and Kurtiss. The only good that can be said of the ref is that when he turns up we see plenty of goals.
Anyway, enough negativity. Great game, great result and everything to look forward to.
UTV - time for a few snifters .

The referee sent Joyce off for less than one of the tackles early on!
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Taylors midfield positioning, particularly first half,  was different class, in terms of linking forward moves. Amazing the difference it made when Gibbo and Monty went off.

Sprosons lambasting of Rodney was a joke. Yes the lad made an error, but never heard anyone get dug out so much. Five minutes later,  he started on about it again.

A rare good day for the lads. Well done Pugh.

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4 minutes ago, CambridgeDon said:

Finally, a word for the referee who was worse than useless, letting Southend get away with foul after foul. It's a good job that there were no police in the ground because they might have intervened and arrested Hobson, their brutal centre half, for attempted GBH on Devante and Kurtiss. The only good that can be said of the ref is that when he turns up we see plenty of goals.

I'm usually less critical than most on here on refs, but he was poor today.

Was obsessed with giving lectures as opposed to bookings, which the players never listen to. Proper ego trip stuff. Some awful challenges and not enough cautions. Hope none of our players picked up knocks as weak officiating lead to a series of rough tackles. 

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Can't ask for more than a 5-1 win in a crucial game. Safend are the worst team I've seen down the Vale in a long, long time but Vale can only beat what's put in front of them. Three tough games coming up.

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