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I agree here but one thing did concern me. 
Did anyone else hear the FGR commentary say that their keeper asked if he could pick the ball up off that back pass / non back pass .
Surely that's not allowed as the ref let's the keeper decide that for himself otherwise it's rather biased to FGR. 
Just something I picked up on which was rather astonishing but yes you are right he was anonymous which is a good trait in a referee 
Not sure you can say it was biased as there's no evidence that he wouldn't have done the same for brown in the same situation, presuming brown had the intelligence to ask. I've not an issue with it myself
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I wrote this one off last week as I expected not a lot from this game so to go a goal down and show some character In keeping them out and going on to score a late equaliser shows some grit and determ

Sorry mate but I can’t believe what you’re saying. You say you’re right every single time, well in my opinion you are absolutely wrong in your view of today’s game. Our defence today was ten times bet

Hurst is not the problem and massively unfair to single him out

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Referees talk to the players all the time, during play they’ll be telling to players to keep the hands off or go steady when they’re together and yes even to tell them if something was a backpass or not. They’re there to help the game, so that’s good refereeing IMO. 

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3 minutes ago, philmpv said:
1 hour ago, darren1810 said:
I agree here but one thing did concern me. 
Did anyone else hear the FGR commentary say that their keeper asked if he could pick the ball up off that back pass / non back pass .
Surely that's not allowed as the ref let's the keeper decide that for himself otherwise it's rather biased to FGR. 
Just something I picked up on which was rather astonishing but yes you are right he was anonymous which is a good trait in a referee 

Not sure you can say it was biased as there's no evidence that he wouldn't have done the same for brown in the same situation, presuming brown had the intelligence to ask. I've not an issue with it myself

Surely it's down to the keeper to know the rules though Phil ? 

Probably just me,but I found it unusual as it's not like play had stopped .

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Nah it's common practice for the keepers to ask refs when they're unsure. Isn't bias. I don't think there's a specific law for it but it happens.

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Surely it's down to the keeper to know the rules though Phil ? 
Probably just me,but I found it unusual as it's not like play had stopped .
I'm sure their keeper did know the rule, but that particular one is entirely dependent on the refs interpretation. What constitutes a backpass to one ref possibly doesn't to another. So if you're unsure you should ask in my opinion
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18 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Surely it's down to the keeper to know the rules though Phil ? 

Probably just me,but I found it unusual as it's not like play had stopped .

They often ask and refs will tell them most of the time, in the rules, nowt wrong with it, be surprised if Brown doesn’t do the same given the chance. 

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1 hour ago, darren1810 said:

I agree here but one thing did concern me. 

Did anyone else hear the FGR commentary say that their keeper asked if he could pick the ball up off that back pass / non back pass .

Surely that's not allowed as the ref let's the keeper decide that for himself otherwise it's rather biased to FGR. 

Just something I picked up on which was rather astonishing but yes you are right he was anonymous which is a good trait in a referee 

I get your point but if you look at Rugby the refs give guidance all the time. I agree the ref was otherwise anonymous which is good.

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OK, thinking back through various posts on this forum, both in this thread and over the last few months, I think I've worked out why our players often lack confidence in their decision making, look unsure of themselves and possibly even why they frequently get injured. It's because they're tied up in mental and physical knots due to the quantum state in which they are playing. Today our woeful, stealing a wage (November) piss-the-league (September) quality non-scoring 6th-highest-scoring players came up against a tinpot, well-funded, rank average, top of the table side with the kind of backroom team and recruitment set-up we should emulate but whose players are nothing special. We were simultaneously expected to lose to them comfortably, beat the likes of them if we're not happy-clappers, but would gladly take a point against them, which is an improvement because we would never have got a point against them a few weeks ago when we drew 1-1 against them having dominated the match. Or something like that. 
Isnt that just because lots of different people follow vale and are allowed to express their opinions how ever different they may be.

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We battered them at home so im not doing cartwheels about the result but considering last league away game conceded four and didnt haven't attempts on target v Sunderland and had four of our best players out yesterday a very creditable result, performance I have no idea has didnt watch .

All the same Pugh has improved us defensively in the two  league games as only conceded one so fair play he is doing ok 

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1 hour ago, philmpv said:
1 hour ago, darren1810 said:
Surely it's down to the keeper to know the rules though Phil ? 
Probably just me,but I found it unusual as it's not like play had stopped .

I'm sure their keeper did know the rule, but that particular one is entirely dependent on the refs interpretation. What constitutes a backpass to one ref possibly doesn't to another. So if you're unsure you should ask in my opinion

Of course, being one of the better refs he knew what should be done. Was it an intended back pass, mis-kick, or deflection,  not always obvious.  Watching on a screen closer to the game, with no crowds, player and coach chat also gives a different insight to the game. Not my preference but the way it is at present.

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Thought we were much better in the second half yesterday. Guthrie looked quite useful when he came on winning a few headers. Rodney took his goal well but he does give the ball away cheaply sometimes. Conlon was the stand out player for me, looks like making him captain has spurred him on a bit. God knows what Brown was doing with the free kick that ended up hitting the crossbar, can only assume that it held up in the wind.

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6 hours ago, Houston Valiant said:

That 1st half was dire. We improved in the 2nd half , with a battling performance,  but Vale were lucky . It could have been 4-1. Still , a point away against the leaders is good, even if the football from both sides was awful. The next 3 fixtures will  tell a lot. 
 

But we could have won4-1 against them at Vale. And we could have run up double figures against Orient. And Scunny could have been buried. Daft thing to say. It didn’t happen and we got a deserved point for defending well and taking our chance. 

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10 hours ago, Clayts said:
OK, thinking back through various posts on this forum, both in this thread and over the last few months, I think I've worked out why our players often lack confidence in their decision making, look unsure of themselves and possibly even why they frequently get injured. It's because they're tied up in mental and physical knots due to the quantum state in which they are playing. Today our woeful, stealing a wage (November) piss-the-league (September) quality non-scoring 6th-highest-scoring players came up against a tinpot, well-funded, rank average, top of the table side with the kind of backroom team and recruitment set-up we should emulate but whose players are nothing special. We were simultaneously expected to lose to them comfortably, beat the likes of them if we're not happy-clappers, but would gladly take a point against them, which is an improvement because we would never have got a point against them a few weeks ago when we drew 1-1 against them having dominated the match. Or something like that. emoji3061.png

Isnt that just because lots of different people follow vale and are allowed to express their opinions how ever different they may be.

People seem to take great pride in presenting two conflicting opinions from this forum, and then pointing and laughing, wheeling away in smug satisfaction having exposed the forum for it's myriad contradictions, like OVF is an anthropomorphic being, and not just hundreds of Vale fans stapling their opinion to a virtual noticeboard. 

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