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21 minutes ago, Properman said:

Whoever we have needs to have a look at what we have got. Some players play better for different people. What he will have to look at, is all the sick notes what we have, not just many, amoo and Monty are in there as well.

 

The problem is that all our best players are injury prone or too old. The new manager will have to work out a way to somehow get the best of our players on the field as often as possible. Whether that be through training methods or diet or rotation of the squad or even the use of substitutes, which Askey never seemed to want to do.   

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Some interesting responses on here to the latest development. I'd like to add some context. In the past TWENTY YEARS we have only achieved a top 7 finish in the league... ONCE. This was under MA

Check out wiki.  He's run the family business with his brother and father for 15 years and has his own football academy.  He's not been "just" a player and manager.  In view of the amount of crit

The meltdown on here is laughable.  Please can someone tell me the success we have had in appointing a manager since Micky left? None. Flitcroft being appointed DoF shows our long term visio

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12 minutes ago, jjvale_03 said:

Tim Cahill is the current favourite for the Fleetwood job. A progressive club who think outside the box.

More experienced manager coach than Heskey?

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Very soon - possibly in the summer - we're going to have to make some big decisions as to which of our older and injured players stay or go because they are, as others have said above, among our better lads and the backbone of the team.

In the short term we probably need to find a midfielder and a defender first and foremost, regroup and stop the rot.

Manager? It's anyone's guess. I suppose we have two choices: an experienced fella who has been round the block, from club to club, or a younger appointment and someone who has coaching experience with a reserve team or under 23s. 

Most names bandied about are in the first category because we've heard of them. But these people have similar records to Askey and are out of work for a reason. I'm not saying some might not do well here but who knows? It's a risk whatever we do.

Huddersfield went for the Leeds coach. Rudge I think was coach at Torquay before coming here. For older viewers, Waddington came out of the blue from Crewe to Stoke. The Cheltenham and Newport bosses came from nowhere and have taken their opportunities. But for every one who does ok there are several who fail. 

I don't envy the owners. It's a hell of a task. And we need someone who can hit the ground running.

I wonder if we might "think outside the box" and seriously consider someone like Heskey or an under 23s coach who we've never heard of. 

I don't know what to think. We all have our own views and I imagine if you polled 12 Vale fans you'd get 6-7 different names so Carol can't do right for doing wrong.

But we go with what we get and support the Club 100% because we now need to see this season out and then think about a rebuild further down the line.

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I don't know who will be appointed as the new manager, but I do know what I want in our next appointment :

1. An appointment that is made with a promise that he will be given time.

2. A manager who gives youth a chance.

3. A manager with a structured and positive recruitment policy that seeks to pick up youngsters released by PL and championship academies each year.

4. A promise that the transfer policy is administered by the manager only.

5. A manager who has the intelligence to quickly realise that the likes of Joyce, legge and pope are limited in ability and not players to build the team around.

6. A manager who does not, year after year, go after the same old tired 'proven league 2 quality players', who are in league 2 for a reason

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I've heard murmurs that it will be Heskey and Sinclair no problem to me if they can get some good players in through there footballing contacts .

However theres no experience there and what if the players do not want play for them as well you only have look down the road and finally for them they have a manager the whole squad put it in for  (apart from they cannot score which is important lol ).but before him they were hiring and firing for years because it seemed looking on from the outside the players didnt want know .

Pughs being around the club a long time but I cannot imagine him being strong enough deal with the big egos etc and let's face it we need a angry man ,aman who will not stand for child like behaviour and when we start losing in games I want see that extra committment from players we didnt see in last 2 of 3 games where the players have just not ran hard enough ,not triedhard enough and have cost the manager his job as they seemed to lack any of the things associated with being professional. 

So I'd like put my 3 names in to the pot John Coleman ,Joey Barton and the Cowleys 

UTV 

However i trust Carol to bring the right person /s in i cannot thank her enough for doing what needed be done ,player power yes or manager who had lost the plot ,something had to give and personally if it means Robinson gets a hat trick sat then it was justified as you cannot hang folk out to dry and carry on playing a system which doesn't suit some players and not have the professionals onside and not being able do there job properly .

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11 hours ago, Vale1995 said:

The bolton game was a freak result! And watching the game could of easily been us losing 6:3 

Or win 8-1. 

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I may be wrong but I don’t believe Heskey currently holds the requisite Level 4 coaching qualification to be appointed manager of a professional side so that would rule him out of the top job. Media articles from last year suggest he held Level 2 and had started working on the higher level badges but they take some time to complete.

I believe Sinclair does hold the necessary qualification.

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I have no idea who to go for but if we're going for a novice then Heskey would be a very strong option with his playing experience.

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I have no idea who to go for but if we're going for a novice then Heskey would be a very strong option with his playing experience.
Let's just hope he doesn't coach the strikers personally

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15 minutes ago, Wrex said:
I have no idea who to go for but if we're going for a novice then Heskey would be a very strong option with his playing experience.

Let's just hope he doesn't coach the strikers personally

The guy is a england international played his whole career in the top flight of english football l for one woukd hope he coaches the strikers??? 
 

wouldnt be against heskey getting it. I think he playing record would command respect i also feel like younger managers are the way forward 

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2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

With regard to Ian Holloway, there was an interesting piece in The Times yesterday about Grimsby. 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/paul-hurst-picking-up-mess-left-by-ian-holloway-as-grimsby-town-eye-new-era-2zz88sz82

It's behind a paywall but here is the significant paragraph:

"Without the arrival of Covid-19, and other off-field distractions, things might have been different. Holloway, though, walked away having signed 16 players in the summer, most of whom are simply not good enough, and rather than build a team to make people “proud”, he left them with a 30-man squad in desperate need of overhaul."

 

His recruitment was worse than Askey's.

Holloway built a squad this summer made up of 32yo+ journeymen, non-league players and unproven kids.

I said to a friend it's either gonna go one of two ways - winning the title or bottom two!

A massive no from me.

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If we're going left field - what about Ian Dawes, assistant at Tranmere.

Took over a struggling side and led the team to 5 wins out of 5 as caretaker manager. Plays attacking football and most Tranmere fans wanted him to get the job permanently. Comes across really well in interviews and as a scouser is local-ish to us.

However, I would 100% advocate an experienced manager. I don't think it's the time for chancers again.

 

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