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29 minutes ago, sandyford_valiant said:

Think Graham’s Alexander is favourite for a job in Scotland I read other day, can’t think which club it was though. 

Yeah he is Odds on for the Motherwell job

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Some interesting responses on here to the latest development. I'd like to add some context. In the past TWENTY YEARS we have only achieved a top 7 finish in the league... ONCE. This was under MA

Check out wiki.  He's run the family business with his brother and father for 15 years and has his own football academy.  He's not been "just" a player and manager.  In view of the amount of crit

The meltdown on here is laughable.  Please can someone tell me the success we have had in appointing a manager since Micky left? None. Flitcroft being appointed DoF shows our long term visio

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Adams Is doing well with Morecambe but I can't help thinking they are in a false position, massively helped by the lack of fans.

Personally think there are better options out there. I would rather a manager who needs to rebuild a reputation like Grayson, Parkinson, Cowley etc.  similar to when we we appointed Micky Adams first time round. 

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3 hours ago, MBE said:

Do you know what for me I have no real preferences on the next manager. There are quite a few candidates out there who I think can come and do a good job and finally get us out of this crap league. I think you could make a good case for most.

I only ask of one thing from our owners and that is to go against the grain of previous regimes and try to get THE best manager available. Its long overdue we invested in a manager rather than going for a cheap option.

Took the words out of my mouth, MBE, we've made do with options on the cheap and this is the result.

My preferences would be Adams, Grayson, Parkinson and Cook.

Just one big no - anyone from inside the club.

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So the general consensus seems to be let's replace JA, whom many of you argue failed, with a manager who failed in their last job......

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So the general consensus seems to be let's replace JA, whom many of you argue failed, with a manager who failed in their last job......

Almost like we support a lower league club isn’t it

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So the general consensus seems to be let's replace JA, whom many of you argue failed, with a manager who failed in their last job......

Thats football, one clubs failure is another clubs success.

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Mickey Adams was an absolute flop at Sheffield United

Not many managers other than Klopp or Pep without a big X against their name.

That's football management

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3 minutes ago, Mario said:

Thats football, one clubs failure is another clubs success.

Exactly - Someone will fail somewhere, walk into another club and turn fortunes around. Thats what happens, thats why its exactly the same names time after time.

 

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3 minutes ago, philmpv said:

So the general consensus seems to be let's replace JA, whom many of you argue failed, with a manager who failed in their last job......

How many clubs south of the championship appoint anyone who didn't fail or run out of steam in their last job?

How many managers are readily available because things were going spectacularly well?

If you want someone going all guns blazing we're either getting someone top of the conference or we're hoping Derek Adam's thinks we've got more potential than Morecambe and he fancies it.

Christ I hope we've got more potential than Morecambe!

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2 minutes ago, philmpv said:

So the general consensus seems to be let's replace JA, whom many of you argue failed, with a manager who failed in their last job......

Very few managers never fail or come up to expectations. Some take the easy way out and go to a bigger club or pay packet until they eventually fail. Many only fail to keep the players on side, who have more power than owners when the results become unacceptable.  Missing promotion is  acceptable  unless you have invested a lot,  but league status is essential for the Vale.

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1 hour ago, valiant_593 said:

Depends if they win some games 

Appears to be to many cook with a finger in the pie. It is damned if you do and damned if you don't, good luck with this one Carol Kevin and family, we all want long-term success on and off the pitch

up the Vale.

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4 minutes ago, philmpv said:

We may as well go after Phil sproson. He's got that many class players on his books we'd be in the PL within 4 years

To be fair Phil , Crookes is the new Maldini. And I expect Toby Edser to be in the England squad soon from what Phil says 

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Every single successful football manager,  and I mean successful,  not just alright, demonstrate certain requisite characteristics.   They're not clones of one another, but all prove themselves at sometime,  at their respected levels and are the right person at the right time.  Notwithstanding the fact that they also know a bit about the game. 

  • Have a presence of authority and credibility 
  • Are inspirational leaders
  • Great psychologists
  • Adapts to, and drives change
  • Knows his players
  • Demands both individual and team work ethic
  • Has clear disciplinary expectations 

Sometimes even these are not enough and even the best managers ultimately have a shelf life,  here's just a few examples, who at the top of their game, ticked all of the above and then some. They also achieved notable success at more than one club, or built the a club up from a lower league 

Sir Alf, Shankly, Clough Snr, Ferggie and even at his peak, our very own Micky Adams.

Problem is, how do we find 'em?

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I reckon we could be quite an attractive club for many managers as we have sane owners and some potential to improve on where we are currently. Until the last two months it seemed Askey was doing fine, I don`t know what has gone wrong.  

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