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  1. 1. Askey in/out

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13 hours ago, pete vale said:

What has gone wrong since the end of October. I always did feel that even early doors we were 'scraping' results, positivity led me to believe we were picking up points and not playing so well.

There appears to be major cracks in the defence, no settled midfield or forward line, rumours  of unrest and of trouble within with a few?

All in all, Carol has set the marker, Askey has to deliver as he HAS been backed.

I'm not confident he/ we can as recruitment has again been poor with the exception of 'Rodney' described as a diamond in the making.

 

It's not good enough, the fans know it, Askey knows it, carol and the board know it.

Question is, what will be done about it and when?

For me decisions should have been made weeks ago.

Something has certainly gone wrong,some players dont even smile when we score,smith just doesn't look happy and thats certainly affecting his form,we have gone from a happy dressing room to goodness knows what.

Decisions do have to be made,we are 6 points off the play offs(easily catchable) but would you really wait until we are say 12 points off the play offs.

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Utterly disgusted with this topic. We have very short memories. We have a squad that is capable of competing. We are mid-table. Those who think they know more than a manager who has won titles at

JA came to PVFC and saved us from possible relegation in 2018/19 season, we were dire and had been for a few seasons. Turned Vale around and  almost certainly would have got Vale in the play-offs in t

Askey has won one title, in the level below. 'Titles at every level' is blatantly incorrect. He's also won a Cheshire Senior Cup, and came 2nd in an FA Trophy. No idea where you've got that fact from.

10 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

How long is his contract? If it’s past this season then it wouldn’t be any better to get rid in the summer. Finance is the issue like you say, but it could get much worse if we carry on as we are 

I believe we would have to pay up months rather than years,at this level those are the kind of clauses written into a managers contract

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11 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

I was an out guy, but I felt Askey has tried to solve our attacking issues and I felt the Stevenage game was the worst. 
 

After the last 3 games, less sure. Very disappointed with underperformance from the likes of Legge, Smith, Robinson and Worral but Rodney is a real find. 

Even so, I think Askey has chosen the best team we have available and using Rodney and Pope is the right call. So for me, I feel it comes down to who can be brought in to improve things in future. 

On one hand he had his chance in the summer, on the other we all felt after the excellent end to last season, we needed little change. How wrong that was! 
 

If JA accepts that and makes the right changes he should stay. If not, he should go. 

The likes of Phil Parkinson are not cheap and neither is paying up Askey’s recently signed deal. It may be better to wait it out and see if he can make the right choices in the next couple of transfer windows. We’re not going down, but unless Carol has loads of cash to burn, we could end up in a Norman Smurfwaite position of burning through money the club does not have on silly punts. 
 

Underperformance of Worrall? Have you been watching the same Worrall as me? 

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8 minutes ago, MBE said:

What do you think is the problem?

I do know Carol gets on with Askey and does like him(that wont stop her getting rid though),its ok us as fans saying get rid now or games ago but i am guessing she hopes that he can do something to turn it around but keep losing and she wont wait until the end of the season like some think,it certainly WONT be down to not being able to afford pay him off.

I still predict he will get the Barrow game on boxing day,win that and he will remain... lose to them then...well

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23 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

I still predict he will get the Barrow game on boxing day,win that and he will remain... lose to them then...well

This is what I don't understand. If money is there to make a change I don't see how one result at home against a lowly side should be enough to give him time. The body of evidence before that should be enough to make the call. Its obvious we will go nowhere under JA. To me he should have gone after the Stevenage game.

For the owners I think its a question of either writing this season off or challenging for the play offs. To challenge a change is needed now to allow someone to bring in 2 or 3 lads, which I think would see us in the play offs.

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16 minutes ago, MBE said:

For the owners I think its a question of either writing this season off or challenging for the play offs. To challenge a change is needed now to allow someone to bring in 2 or 3 lads, which I think would see us in the play offs.

Nah not for me. This isn't a promotion squad. Which reflects badly on Askey because he's been here nearly two years.

The season is a write off so there's no point in doing anything hasty. We'll see how the rest of the season pans out. If play-offs are out of reach in February then bring in a new manager then so he has time to look at the squad properly before a rebuild in the summer.

This squad is in need of a rebuild as not only is it not good enough for promotion it's also getting quite old in places. What's the spine? Brown - Legge - Joyce - Pope? Rodney seems to be filling Pope's shoes but otherwise we need to make strong signings and the recruitment needs to improve massively. Another words we need long term solutions not a short term fix.

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2 hours ago, werstayinup said:

I do know Carol gets on with Askey and does like him(that wont stop her getting rid though),its ok us as fans saying get rid now or games ago but i am guessing she hopes that he can do something to turn it around but keep losing and she wont wait until the end of the season like some think,it certainly WONT be down to not being able to afford pay him off.

I still predict he will get the Barrow game on boxing day,win that and he will remain... lose to them then...well

This period at Vale reminds me of times when for example Aspin, Brown and Foyle were for the 'Off'.

The only remaining question is when imo.

Football is a very strange game and things turn on what appear to be minor 'blips' that then just grow.

We looked OK attacking wise against FGR and Colchester, defensively piss poor.

For me recruitment has been appalling, this in itself could and should see the removal of JA

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So many people saying this season is written off,is it heck as like... 6 points off the play offs,even if we were 12 off i wouldn't say that either under Askey or any manager,i always say if you are around 6 points off around January then there is still so much to play for so to write it off now is silly,only my opinion though

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4 hours ago, Wrex said:

Nah not for me. This isn't a promotion squad. Which reflects badly on Askey because he's been here nearly two years.

I agree,as it stands we don't have the squad to challenge but as I said with 2 or 3 additions to the 1st eleven we should be up there. I've said before this squad has a small window of opportunity for a tilt at promotion due to its age and its now. JA's mismanagement of subs and tactics during games has cost us so far otherwise we would be in the pay offs.

There are no really good teams in this league. They are all very very similar which is why I think an injection of a few new faces in the 1st team, a new voice and a plan b  will make all the difference.

I don't think writing another season off should be an option.

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So many people saying this season is written,is it heck as like... 6 points off the play offs,even if we were 12 off i wouldn't say that either under Askey or any manager,i always say if you are around 6 points off around January then there is still so much to play for so to write it off now is silly,only my opinion though

Like someone put last night we need 50 points from 23 games for the play offs , whoever is manager is struggling to achieve that

I think if we are honest at the beginning of the season we were all very happy with squad and on paper it’s one of the strongest squads we have had in years , but football isn’t played on paper

The players are nowhere near the form they were in last season , mills , whitehead , Robinson , Fitzpatrick haven’t hit the heights we thought they would as new players

Askey as much as We all want him to be isn’t the man to take us forward and get us out of this league
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51 minutes ago, vale victory said:


Like someone put last night we need 50 points from 23 games for the play offs , whoever is manager is struggling to achieve that

I think if we are honest at the beginning of the season we were all very happy with squad and on paper it’s one of the strongest squads we have had in years , but football isn’t played on paper

The players are nowhere near the form they were in last season , mills , whitehead , Robinson , Fitzpatrick haven’t hit the heights we thought they would as new players

Askey as much as We all want him to be isn’t the man to take us forward and get us out of this league

Not sure on the maths there, we’ve 24 points from 19 games so far. Realistically another 50 is needed for the Play-offs from 27 games.

That translates to, say, 17 wins 0 draws and 10 defeats or 12 wins 14 draws and 1 defeat. 

In other words, we are now already in a position whereby automatic promotion has pretty much gone and we need to win every other game to be on track to scrape into the Play-offs. 

We’re not far off needing snookers in my opinion, hence why I’ve written this year off.

And I have to admit, if someone had said we’d have to settle for 7th at the start of the season then I would have been a underwhelmed, as I had this as an automatic promotion year.

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If there are any issues in the dressing room freeze them out and get rid at the earliest opportunity. Something isn't right at the Vale.They're very lucky to be in employment nowadays and many fans have coughed up hundreds of pounds to pay their wages and help keep the club going.Time to step Port Vale players!!!Also ,this poll doesn't really portray a true picture, as under 80 votes for over 4000 Vale fans says it all.Yes Askey needs to sort this mess out.

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I'm not sure this is the time for changing things? Last season we were so desperately unlucky not to get into the playoffs, but they're still not beyond us now - nowhere near a lost cause.

What has been a concern is the form of certain players: last year, the pairing of Smith and Legge was hailed as one of the best in our League; Brown was described as the best GK in our League; Worrall and Burgess were playing out of their skins. Whilst these last 2 appear to be finding a bit of that form, our central defensive 3 - GK / CH / CH are losing it. It might be an idea to give Visser a run, and swap the CHs around, and bring in one new one in January - even if it's only on loan? Then we can re-assess the situation at the end of the season, and if we bring a new manager in it gives him chance to recruit and have a close season together. I'm not sure - Parkinson and Adkins(?) apart, that there's sufficient superior quality out there and available?

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If we do change the manager then how many new players do we need to challenge for the play offs? 4,5,6 that's not going to happen. We need at least 2 central defenders, a proper holding midfielder and a Tony Naylor type forward as a minimum

I'm certain that with the players we currently have a new manager would struggle to get a tune out of them. Tough call for Carol, maybe quite a bit costly to make

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2 hours ago, ELDERBEZZA said:

If there are any issues in the dressing room freeze them out and get rid at the earliest opportunity. Something isn't right at the Vale.They're very lucky to be in employment nowadays and many fans have coughed up hundreds of pounds to pay their wages and help keep the club going.Time to step Port Vale players!!!Also ,this poll doesn't really portray a true picture, as under 80 votes for over 4000 Vale fans says it all.Yes Askey needs to sort this mess out.

This is what annoys me, the club (Carol & Co ) have improved the place beyond recognition, the supporters have backed the team buying season tickets with no hope of going to Vale Park any time soon, I agree it's time for the players to step up, whatever is going on (If something is ) needs to be brought to a head, as you say they are lucky to be in employment.

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The squad of players is fine, capable of getting into the play offs. 

The manager only has one system, 433, and that isn't sufficient to win enough games. 

The manager appears to be tactically inept, incapable of reacting effectively throughout the course of the game. Time and time and time again plan A works well, we're winning, the opposition manager makes tactical changes and substitutions and Askey doesn't respond. We concede a couple of goals and lose the game.

Fair enough, it happens in football sometimes, but under JA it's happening now most weeks and doesn't appear to be changing. 

I like JA, some of the football is decent, but our loss column and league position are unacceptable and that's why I voted "out". 

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