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There’s no chance of any change unfortunately we have a owner who’s main interest is to plough all the money the club generates ie Man City / tv money plus checkatrade trophy etc into the pot to pay the outstanding payments to Smurthwaite.
Secondly we have a none league manager whose recruitment is dire and has been fortunate to inherit most of his squad from previous managers and reliant on Phil Sprostons contacts.
In brief the club has had no ambition for years despite having a core base of loyal supporters and is happy to make do with second rate managers and players alike.


 
And therein lies the mentality of some vale fans, usually the most vociferous. Results not going well. Sack the manager. Results still not going well with new manager. Change the players and until then blame the old manager and the new manager. Results still not happening. Sack the new manager and owners. And repeat ad infinitum.
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4 minutes ago, Gareths54 said:

There’s no chance of any change unfortunately we have a owner who’s main interest is to plough all the money the club generates ie Man City / tv money plus checkatrade trophy etc into the pot to pay the outstanding payments to Smurthwaite.

Secondly we have a none league manager whose recruitment is dire and has been fortunate to inherit most of his squad from previous managers and reliant on Phil Sprostons contacts.

In brief the club has had no ambition for years despite having a core base of loyal supporters and is happy to make do with second rate managers and players alike.



 

couldnt have said it better myself. its there for all to see !

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5 minutes ago, Gareths54 said:

There’s no chance of any change unfortunately we have a owner who’s main interest is to plough all the money the club generates ie Man City / tv money plus checkatrade trophy etc into the pot to pay the outstanding payments to Smurthwaite.
 

Misinformed sh1te.

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2 minutes ago, philmpv said:
7 minutes ago, Gareths54 said:
There’s no chance of any change unfortunately we have a owner who’s main interest is to plough all the money the club generates ie Man City / tv money plus checkatrade trophy etc into the pot to pay the outstanding payments to Smurthwaite.
Secondly we have a none league manager whose recruitment is dire and has been fortunate to inherit most of his squad from previous managers and reliant on Phil Sprostons contacts.
In brief the club has had no ambition for years despite having a core base of loyal supporters and is happy to make do with second rate managers and players alike.


 

And therein lies the mentality of some vale fans, usually the most vociferous. Results not going well. Sack the manager. Results still not going well with new manager. Change the players and until then blame the old manager and the new manager. Results still not happening. Sack the new manager and owners. And repeat ad infinitum.

Maybe we should, you know, appoint a good manager?

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2 minutes ago, philmpv said:
6 minutes ago, Gareths54 said:
There’s no chance of any change unfortunately we have a owner who’s main interest is to plough all the money the club generates ie Man City / tv money plus checkatrade trophy etc into the pot to pay the outstanding payments to Smurthwaite.
Secondly we have a none league manager whose recruitment is dire and has been fortunate to inherit most of his squad from previous managers and reliant on Phil Sprostons contacts.
In brief the club has had no ambition for years despite having a core base of loyal supporters and is happy to make do with second rate managers and players alike.


 

And therein lies the mentality of some vale fans, usually the most vociferous. Results not going well. Sack the manager. Results still not going well with new manager. Change the players and until then blame the old manager and the new manager. Results still not happening. Sack the new manager and owners. And repeat ad infinitum.

So you think askey should carry on 

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1 minute ago, Coyney Valiant said:

So you think askey should carry on 

Love how he makes it clear 'results aren't good', and someone thinks he's made a great argument.

Yes, we agree. Results aren't good. Just because previous managers were bad does not mean we are wrong to think this one has reached his ceiling.

I'd argue, in fact, that Vale fans were spot on in calling for the removal of Bruno, Brown, and Aspin, suggesting their judgement is bang on.

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5 minutes ago, philmpv said:

You'd better write into carol with that pearl of wisdom JB. I didn't realise how easy it was. You ever thought of buying a football club?

No, you made the point that Vale fans keep complaining about the manager.

My point is that maybe the managers all deserved criticism? You offered no argument other than that Vale fans are consistently (correctly) sick of being a bad football team, apart from some sanctimonious criticism that Vale fans, who have spent most of the last 20 years in the bottom tier and facing financial ruin, are in some way serial moaners and love to slag off managers.

I am a massive fan of Carol and worked for months to help her secure the club. I trust her judgement.

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