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Match Thread: Port Vale v Scunthorpe United


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2 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Recruitment insufficient for a second successive summer.

The first 11 has not been improved much at all. 

Argument to be made that our best 11 contains 10 players that were here when Askey arrived. 

This is what will hold Askey back. I think he's a reasonable coach, who can organise a team and can get more out of players than they've previously shown, but his inability to scout/attract quality footballers will be his downfall.

Like i said i think he was extremely lucky last season with Taylor having a good run for goals

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Askey signings

Summer 19

Maddison, Crookes, Kennedy, Brisley, Burgess, Lloyd, Evans, Hurst, Taylor, Amoo, Browne, Cullen, Bennett, Archer (only 7 still here)

Jan 20

Clark

Summer 20

Rodney, Mills, Whitehead, Robinson, Fitzpatrick, Visser, McKirdy, Clark (Only Clark started tonight)

 

 

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2 minutes ago, MBE said:

I agree we don't have a striker ready to play on their own upfront, which begs the question why do we keep doing it? I just don't get it. We signed Robinson who is a 15-20 goals man playing in a front two and we have not given him a run of games to strike up a partnership. I find It bizarre. We need to find a system to play two upfront to give the strikers a chance or get rid of Robinson and Cullen in the transfer window.  Personally I would like to see us play 3-5-2 to utilise the skills of Monty and Clarke going forward with Wozza moving as the attacking midfielder. 

We play one because Askey insists on playing a defensive midfielder to protect the back four. Without this i think all the criticism would be on the back four not being good enough

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3 minutes ago, MBE said:

I agree we don't have a striker ready to play on their own upfront, which begs the question why do we keep doing it? I just don't get it. We signed Robinson who is a 15-20 goals man playing in a front two and we have not given him a run of games to strike up a partnership. I find It bizarre. We need to find a system to play two upfront to give the strikers a chance or get rid of Robinson and Cullen in the transfer window.  Personally I would like to see us play 3-5-2 to utilise the skills of Monty and Clarke going forward with Wozza moving as the attacking midfielder. 

You're asking a malted milk biscuit to suddenly turn into a jammy dodger. Not gonna happen.

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35 minutes ago, Powerline said:

Our fan base is an embarrassment at the moment. We are outside the playoffs on goal difference and you want the manager sacked. Christ.

Embarrassing for complaining about losing 3 home games on the bounce. Failing to score in two of them. One against a part time side and one against second bottom. Oh. And conceding 4 in the other. Loads to be positive about!!!

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2 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Askey signings

Summer 19

Maddison, Crookes, Kennedy, Brisley, Burgess, Lloyd, Evans, Hurst, Taylor, Amoo, Browne, Cullen, Bennett, Archer (only 7 still here)

Jan 20

Clark

Summer 20

Rodney, Mills, Whitehead, Robinson, Fitzpatrick, Visser, McKirdy, Clark (Only Clark started tonight)

 

 

On paper a much better squad, as most would have agreed at the start of the season.  But the fundamental problem of our lack of goals last season still remains.

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5 minutes ago, TylerB said:

Askey doesn't generally bring on subs until so late on in games because when he's making changes after 60 minutes or so, as he did tonight, it's as good as an admission that he got the starting 11 wrong. The truth is he has no idea who our best forward is. Has no idea what our best 11 is. Has no idea what our best formation is, so he just plays the same old formation every week while closing his eyes and hoping for the best, regardless of the opposition.

Askey does know his best formation its 4-3-3 although we play it more 4-5-1. The starting eleven he thinks he knows the best - its the team which lost to Kings Lynn,Tranmere. Tonight wasn't his best team as it was missing Joyce.

Sadly for us Askey is only comfortable playing 4-3-3. Even the Morecambe commentators where making fun saying Askey has 3 options 4-3-3, 4-3-3 & 4-3-3. How true...

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Not liking Scunny these days. Not only did their added time equaliser last season deny us place in play-offs before curtailment but this happens. How can Vale mess up two home games against struggling teams - should have been joint top tonight. Surely this prospect could have been rammed down players throats - what more motivation do you need. Seems like hangover from Kings Lynn game still lingering.

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1 minute ago, valiant_593 said:

Embarrassing for complaining about losing 3 home games on the bounce. Failing to score in two of them. One against a part time side and one against second bottom. Oh. And conceding 4 in the other. Loads to be positive about!!!

Having a good old moan is fine. But calling for a manager to be sacked because we aren’t top. Perhaps a bit of perspective is needed.

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4 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Askey signings

Summer 19

Maddison, Crookes, Kennedy, Brisley, Burgess, Lloyd, Evans, Hurst, Taylor, Amoo, Browne, Cullen, Bennett, Archer (only 7 still here)

Jan 20

Clark

Summer 20

Rodney, Mills, Whitehead, Robinson, Fitzpatrick, Visser, McKirdy, Clark (Only Clark started tonight)

 

 

If you pick your strongest eleven out of our squad. Play the every game !!

What would you honestly give them for a goals tally based on what you have seen and previous seasons in their career.

Will be interesting and i will bet it doesnt give us enough for promotion

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6 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Askey signings

Summer 19

Maddison, Crookes, Kennedy, Brisley, Burgess, Lloyd, Evans, Hurst, Taylor, Amoo, Browne, Cullen, Bennett, Archer (only 7 still here)

Jan 20

Clark

Summer 20

Rodney, Mills, Whitehead, Robinson, Fitzpatrick, Visser, McKirdy, Clark (Only Clark started tonight)

 

 

Said it at the start of the season. Dire recruitment. Mostly non league players who barely played for us and subsequently got released (Lloyd, Kennedy, Evans ect) the same will happen at the end of this season. Whitehead, crookes will be released. We don’t sign first team players just these below average squad players that aren’t good enough to displace the starting players. 

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2 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

Having a good old moan is fine. But calling for a manager to be sacked because we aren’t top. Perhaps a bit of perspective is needed.

Don’t think anyone is complaining we’re not top. It’s more the level of performance so far this season. There must be 5/6 truly dire displays so far this season most of them at home as well. I don’t want him gone yet but another 2/3 more games like tonight and it’s difficult to back him 

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