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5 minutes ago, Quebec_Valiant said:

It's ok to disagree, it's about opinions.  My initial reaction, without replays, was that he may well walk.   

I'm not convinced that it was a tackle that he needed to make.  From my perspective he gave the ref  a decision to make unnecessarily. 

Yes its fine, no issue.

The player is coming through the middle. Joyce is there to stop him but fairly. He was slow in the challenge. Player reactions didnt help but the ref was certainly ready with the red card

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2 minutes ago, Properman said:

How stupid is that .(we lost without joyce on the pitch)It was his fault ,Red card. Watch the replay both feet off the ground. We wont win many games with ten men, to say we dont with Joyce on the pitch stupid. He was on the pitch at the time  his fault.

You’re missing my point, mate. I’m just pointing out that we don’t have a player who does the job he does. 

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1 minute ago, connor hackett said:
10 minutes ago, Conrad said:
Dodgy defending? Two of their goals shouldn’t have been.
not creating enough going forward? 7 in a week.

Kings Lynn have the worst defence in the national league by a country mile, they've shipped another 5 today. Just saying.

Did they go out and defend 10 men behind the ball in desperate attempt to get a smash and grab result? 

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So, the summary:-

- They started much sharper than us, were better in midfield and we had a big let off when they hit the bar. We didn’t learn from letting them shoot from distance and it ultimately cost us.

- I don’t think ours was a penalty.

- A brilliant set-piece goal from Amoo.

- They obviously got to the ref at HT.

- Joyce made a stupid challenge and I can see why the ref gave it.

- Blatant foul on Pope for their 1st but bad defending. 

- Couldn’t see why he disallowed Vaughan’s goal if I’m honest.

- Thought Rodney really didn’t bully their CB’s enough and should have done better with the chance he snatched at.

- Ridiculous, needless challenge from Legge to give them a penalty, which again looked a bit soft.

- Another brilliant set-piece goal from Rodney. 

- Manny played well but we should have done better with a couple of opportunities on the break.

- Not idea where 6 mins of injury time came from.

- Really, really poor 3rd goal to concede, what was Smith’s header all about?? Knocked the stuffing out of us.

- Inevitable winner, which was a good strike but again we almost invited him to have a pop from distance.

- Left wondering why Askey never brought Brisley on, to run the clock down if nothing else.

All in all, despite being hampered by as abject a refereeing performance as I’ve seen, I also think we are authors of our own downfall to a certain extent. I’m loathe to criticise Legge but he did a couple of strange, uncharacteristic things that make me think he is due a rest.

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It was much better than last week. We created a lot more and the finishing was decent. Even so, Blackett-Taylor, James Vaughan and Jay Spearing look well above anyone in our squad. 
 

Praise and grumble is a bit silly with some extreme views of getting Askey out ridiculous, even so he needs to show improvement because despite our league position, I just feel our performances are not as good as late last season. 

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2 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

You’re missing my point, mate. I’m just pointing out that we don’t have a player who does the job he does. 

Lets hope Askey knows more than you Jacko51 or we maybe in a mess for a few games.

I agree with you by the way. Spearing played that role well today and created more chances for his team. I often feel that Conlon should play that role. Lets see

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1 minute ago, Biddulph_PV said:

So, the summary:-

- They started much sharper than us, were better in midfield and we had a big let off when they hit the bar. We didn’t learn from letting them shoot from distance and it ultimately cost us.

- I don’t think ours was a penalty.

- A brilliant set-piece goal from Amoo.

- They obviously got to the ref at HT.

- Joyce made a stupid challenge and I can see why the ref gave it.

- Blatant foul on Pope for their 1st but bad defending. 

- Couldn’t see why he disallowed Vaughan’s goal if I’m honest.

- Thought Rodney really didn’t bully their CB’s enough and should have done better with the chance he snatched at.

- Ridiculous, needless challenge from Legge to give them a penalty, which again looked a bit soft.

- Another brilliant set-piece goal from Rodney. 

- Manny played well but we should have done better with a couple of opportunities on the break.

- Not idea where 6 mins of injury time came from.

- Really, really poor 3rd goal to concede, what was Smith’s header all about?? Knocked the stuffing out of us.

- Inevitable winner, which was a good strike but again we almost invited him to have a pop from distance.

- Left wondering why Askey never brought Brisley on, to run the clock down if nothing else.

All in all, despite being hampered by as abject a refereeing performance as I’ve seen, I also think we are authors of our own downfall to a certain extent. I’m loathe to criticise Legge but he did a couple of strange, uncharacteristic things that make me think he is due a rest.

Agree with all of this. 

I was really surprised Askey didn't Stick Brisley on sooner 

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2 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Once again, we lose without Joyce on the pitch. He’s a more important player than some on here think. I’d appeal the red. 

Joyce deserved to get sent off it was a red why go to ground just stand up no excuse he is a experienced player. The person to blame is Askey to play that side is unbelievable Tom popes legs have gone everyone can see it to keep him on that long is a shocking decision what did he do today hardly won a ball all day had one shot at goal that hit another player. When rodney came on at least he gave a 38 yr old centre back a bit of problem even manny went up front and did more than pope get some rose tinted glasses off  Joyce and Pope should be nowhere near the starting line up again end of

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, hamilboy said:

Joyce deserved to get sent off it was a red why go to ground just stand up no excuse he is a experienced player. The person to blame is Askey to play that side is unbelievable Tom popes legs have gone everyone can see it to keep him on that long is a shocking decision what did he do today hardly won a ball all day had one shot at goal that hit another player. When rodney came on at least he gave a 38 yr old centre back a bit of problem even manny went up front and did more than pope get some rose tinted glasses off  Joyce and Pope should be nowhere near the starting line up again end of

 

 

 

Don’t agree. 

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If I’m honest even at two up we were not in total control.   They always looked capable of scoring and both Crookes and Clark were struggling, maybe not because they were having an off day but because they couldn’t handle their respective opponents.    Another puzzler was putting Oyeleke up front.   Not known for chasing lost causes but he tried. I thought he would go into the middle and release a bure mobile runner to hold on to it up top.   

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2 minutes ago, hamilboy said:

Joyce deserved to get sent off it was a red why go to ground just stand up no excuse he is a experienced player. The person to blame is Askey to play that side is unbelievable Tom popes legs have gone everyone can see it to keep him on that long is a shocking decision what did he do today hardly won a ball all day had one shot at goal that hit another player. When rodney came on at least he gave a 38 yr old centre back a bit of problem even manny went up front and did more than pope get some rose tinted glasses off  Joyce and Pope should be nowhere near the starting line up again end of

 

 

 

Did you watch the first half? If so what was the score?  From memory, we were doing just fine with Tom Pope on the park.

Just to spell it out to the simpletons out there, the sending off changed the game. Simple as that.  Get over your disappointment, stop blaming the manager and look at the real reasons we lost the game.

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