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10 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

I wont slate Legge one bit however i do think he might need a rest(although having said that we didnt play midweek and he wont play on tuesday),Legge is a warrior we all know that..... i arent sure if those saying about a contract are on about if we are still in league 2 but personally speaking if we are in league 2 he has another 12mths in him,maybe not as many starts but move into the coaching side at Vale,should we be promoted to league 1 then i doubt he would get one as a player for us but be offered a coaching role

 

We’ve got more coaches than players already 

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You have to take your medicine on days like today if you want to enjoy giant killings like Everton and Spurs. Part and parcel of the game. That's why the FA Cup is the greatest etc etc etc.

I assume you are posting this as a wind up ?

I have not yet conceded that we lost today pending a number of legal appeals. 

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Watching the highlights of the other FAC games, what struck me is the gap between L1, L2 and the non-league is marginal. As Vale fans we wouldn’t have been surprised if we lost last weekend so I don’t know why we should be that surprised we lost to a side slightly below them.

As disappointing as it is I suppose the fans of Swindon, Colchester, Rochdale, Grimsby and Southend are all feeling the same this morning. I think it goes to show we’ve improved from two years ago but we have still got a long way to go. 
The most disappointing aspect is the loss of revenue especially during these difficult times. This result will either derail or galvanise us. I just hope it’s the latter!

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People slate Legge but second half on a booking I thought he did very well. They targeted him, at one point Power went one on one against him and he took him wide didn’t dive in and forced it for a corner. Our defensive record is best in L2 I believe and he’s been key so to slate him and talk about him being past it or not worth a contract is a bit over the top. He has helped Smudge develop no end as well with his experience.

I was thinking of non league defeats at home and let’s hope there is a correlation! 2000/01 Canvey Island... after that loss we went on to win the LDV and second half of that season lost 1 in 20 odd games.

Scarborough in 2003/04 we had a similar great home record to the present time but were beaten late on like yesterday. That season was the closest we’d come to returning to the second tier and was a whisker from the play offs.

So it doesn’t have to be a death knell of the overall goal in the league or affect us.

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8 minutes ago, valefan16 said:

People slate Legge but second half on a booking I thought he did very well. They targeted him, at one point Power went one on one against him and he took him wide didn’t dive in and forced it for a corner. Our defensive record is best in L2 I believe and he’s been key so to slate him and talk about him being past it or not worth a contract is a bit over the top. He has helped Smudge develop no end as well with his experience.

I was thinking of non league defeats at home and let’s hope there is a correlation! 2000/01 Canvey Island... after that loss we went on to win the LDV and second half of that season lost 1 in 20 odd games.

Scarborough in 2003/04 we had a similar great home record to the present time but were beaten late on like yesterday. That season was the closest we’d come to returning to the second tier and was a whisker from the play offs.

So it doesn’t have to be a death knell of the overall goal in the league or affect us.

Legge on a booking, and getting skinned. Manager should have got him off and put a forward on. They only threatened  now and again(against legge) . Sorry but as Akeys fault  I know most players were crap, but make subs instead of last 10 15 mins. Askey would send me sleep in dressing room, you only have to listen to him on the radio. Get someone who can motivate.

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Is playing Pope at home in a 1 man attack the correct thing to do?, yes, he scored 2 goals in his previous game but totally different circumstances and as mentioned by many, he is the better option when playing away from home.

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After a night’s sleep and reflection.

Brown - 6 - Little to do and no chance with the goal.

Defence.  Clark easily MoTM, with Smith decent also especially as he was carrying Legge today.  Crookes ok but offers little offensively.

Midfield - woeful.  How some can scream for 442 when we struggled to dominate the middle of the pitch with an extra man is beyond me.  What was the point of having Manny on the bench if you just leave them to perform like that!

Forwards - Amoo our only real attacking threat on the day, albeit Wozza unlucky to have his strike chalked off.  I note the long essays of last week about why Pope must start because defenders are frightened at the mere sight of his name on the team sheet are lacking this week.  Dominated start to finish by their centre backs who must have loved having such a static target.  Tom still has a role to play but it should be as an impact sub.  Yes I know he scored twice last week, but Southend kids with an 18 month losing streak should not be the benchmark.  We needed movement up top and had none.

Very disappointing- let’s hope we get a positive reaction

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12 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Overall I would prefer to lose today than a league game. The league is the target to get out of this god awful division. It’s a bad defeat and askey really needs to wake up and change the side round and use the resources he had. However I’d prefer us to lose today rather than our next league match. 

You may well be right  that we are in a "God awful division" but unfortunately we gave a perfect impression of a team in it - ie God awful !!

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

Is playing Pope at home in a 1 man attack the correct thing to do?, yes, he scored 2 goals in his previous game but totally different circumstances and as mentioned by many, he is the better option when playing away from home.

Totally agree. But how can he drop a bloke who grabbed a brace last week ?

The strikers is a huge conundrum for Askey. 

Cullen for example will win us the game at VP, quite rightly keeps his place for the next game. Totally anonymous as we lump it up to him. 

Pope recalled, repeat what I said for Cullen.

Robinson slightly disappointed so far in him but again no run of games without being dropped.

Rodney totally raw and unproven, doesn't even know himself what he is going to do next. Exciting and frustrating in equal measure.

I really don't know the answer but when the onus is on us I'm not sure Pope is the man at home, he most certainly is the man away as he holds the ball up better than our other 3 options. 

Askey is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Dropping Pope yesterday would of been seen as ridiculous, likewise after Cullen got his 2 against Crawley he had to pick him next game. 

No idea what the answer is but the disjointedness of 4 strikers and not knowing our main man isn't great. 

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Was the pitch the problem not having a go at the groundsman it had taken a lot of water over the past few weeks drainage on clay not very good did the youth team play there game on the main pitch Wednesday so a roller could not be used to level the pitch properly look at the lumps of turf that came up in some of the challanges I know it was the same for both teams but you only need one chance.

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Ah well the sun did come up this morning, as I knew it would. Personally there was no meltdown, just great disappointment in the level of that performance. We'd just won 3 on the spin and, I thought, played well, dealing with poor opponents professionally. (Cheltenham excluded from that.) Yesterday, we started slowly and seemed content to get into a lump it competition when we know we are better than that and we couldn't seem to shake off the lethargy.

Second half I was relatively convinced it was just going to be a matter of time as we pressed. Browny hadn't had to make a save all game yet I still had an ominous feeling. I think when Popey gave the ball away with that attempted cross that they broke with and should have scored then, tbh, I sensed what was going to happen.

The players have to hold their hands up for me...yes there could have been subs and I would like to have seen Cullen on for a tiring Pope at some stage.

I know we've had some pretty grim cup results but the last time I felt as frustrated as this was that defeat by Scarborough in was it 2004?

Oh well on to Tuesday and as a few have said I'd rather lose yesterday than in the League but oh Dear Lord yesterday smarts!

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3 minutes ago, rsb said:

Was the pitch the problem not having a go at the groundsman it had taken a lot of water over the past few weeks drainage on clay not very good did the youth team play there game on the main pitch Wednesday so a roller could not be used to level the pitch properly look at the lumps of turf that came up in some of the challanges I know it was the same for both teams but you only need one chance.

I wondered that...it looked "slow" and cut up a bit and it did seem to slow the passing down. There were an awful lot of poor first touches as well. 

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After a night’s sleep and reflection.
Brown - 6 - Little to do and no chance with the goal.
Defence.  Clark easily MoTM, with Smith decent also especially as he was carrying Legge today.  Crookes ok but offers little offensively.
Midfield - woeful.  How some can scream for 442 when we struggled to dominate the middle of the pitch with an extra man is beyond me.  What was the point of having Manny on the bench if you just leave them to perform like that!
Forwards - Amoo our only real attacking threat on the day, albeit Wozza unlucky to have his strike chalked off.  I note the long essays of last week about why Pope must start because defenders are frightened at the mere sight of his name on the team sheet are lacking this week.  Dominated start to finish by their centre backs who must have loved having such a static target.  Tom still has a role to play but it should be as an impact sub.  Yes I know he scored twice last week, but Southend kids with an 18 month losing streak should not be the benchmark.  We needed movement up top and had none.
Very disappointing- let’s hope we get a positive reaction
How dare you criticise tom pope for being dominated by 2 non league centre halves. He scored a lot of goals in a season a long time ago don't you know.

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4 hours ago, Properman said:

Legge on a booking, and getting skinned. Manager should have got him off and put a forward on. They only threatened  now and again(against legge) . Sorry but as Akeys fault  I know most players were crap, but make subs instead of last 10 15 mins. Askey would send me sleep in dressing room, you only have to listen to him on the radio. Get someone who can motivate.

Get someone in who can motivate?? really....... i keep repeating myself but Askeys stats at Vale are more than decent

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1 hour ago, rsb said:

Was the pitch the problem not having a go at the groundsman it had taken a lot of water over the past few weeks drainage on clay not very good did the youth team play there game on the main pitch Wednesday so a roller could not be used to level the pitch properly look at the lumps of turf that came up in some of the challanges I know it was the same for both teams but you only need one chance.

If you are looking for excuses,what about the fact that we've had a weeks rest because of the Scunny cancellation?

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I see Scunny have just lost at home to Solihull.  I wonder if we can play our postponed game against them on second round day??
Would make sense. But we all know that sometimes when it comes to the EFL common sense flies out of the window!
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