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1 hour ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

From what I've seen, Starmer's plan was working like a dream. I don't think he wants the party to be driven by it's members. He certainly won't miss our membership fees as, apparently, big business is queuing up to donate to the party. Why pander to half a million members when you can get multi-millionaires bankrolling the party? As I said before, one of his strategists is on record as saying that the plan is to get the left of the party to purge itself and, despite pleas from Corbyn, McDonnell and McCluskey, that seems to be happening. Having said that, the left 'won' the recent NEC elections so we're not buried yet.

Regarding that Times article, despite several people I know resigning from my branch party, our membership has increased since Sir Keith took over.

If Corbyn proceeds with his court case protesting his having the ship withdrawn, it could get very messy. The socialists left in the party aren't going to let Starmer have his way either. One thing that I would really love to see happen is for Corbyn to become extremely litigious. There are so many lies being pushed right now and he's got to draw a line somewhere even if it's about 3 years too late. Still have no idea why he was initially suspended. 

Getting Business leaders involved with Labour, is the way forward, good luck to Starker if he can achieve it. What the party really needs is Corbyn, McDonald, Mcluskey and Momentum to walk away. That is  long shot I will grant you. But until the Dinosaurs have gone, the British public will ensure that Labour will always be in opposition

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To be really disappointed they need to have lived through a Labour goverment?

Thank goodness for new management. “It is encouraging to see the Party’s new leadership has committed to implementing our recommendations in full.“

Tories forever more is a frightening prospect. 

3 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

I like how you refer to the people who created the most revolutionary and forward looking manifesto in living memory 'dinosaurs' whilst simultaneously longing for the Labour Party of 3 decades ago (that, incidentally, started the dismantling of the 'red wall').

You may not realise this, but Labour need to be in power. They won't get into power with your so called Revolutionary and forward manifesto. Hence the electorate voted as they did.

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I think getting rid of the more radical aspect of the Corbyn years would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The policies in the 2017 and 2019 manifestos were very popular according to polling but for other reasons, whether that be a dislike of Corbyn, mistrust of Labour economically or a desire to GET BREXIT DONE, people opted for this shower of conmen.

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On 19/11/2020 at 13:09, mr.hobblesworth said:

Stating "antisemitism in Labour was dramatically overstated for political reasons" is not the same as "criticising the EHRC report as politically motivated and an exaggeration". 

I see you're ignoring the rest of Tunstallpotter's post in favour of gleefully spreading more nonsense and lies.

I see that Corbyn's followers were still playing 'schoolchildren politics' with their walkout yesterday at Labour's NEC meeting and have now lost their majority on that ruling body.  Whether you like it or not, it looks like Starmer is playing a much cleverer, canny game of politics--the 'Jezza experiment' appears to be well & truly over and becoming consigned to the bin of history!

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I don't think you can take polling seriously at the moment.

 

I also don't think you can claim a manifesto was very popular when they pretty much tried to simultaneously promise everything to everyone whilst also promising nothing. It was a joke of a manifesto. Evidenced by the pensions thing in the run up to the vote when Labour just ad-hoc added another 50 billion to compensate for the pension age changes for women.

Labour's manifesto was nonsensical. Free internet connections for everyone. I mean literally no one had argued anything about internet access either before or after that election. It was amazing really. Especially when you disagree with brexit but daren't come out and say it. 

If you poll momentum, Corbyn is very popular. You can't really then claim that Corbyn is very popular when the only poll that matters returned a pretty devastating defeat for him, with many people citing him as the primary reason that they couldn't vote for labour.

 

 

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