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I think left back area becomes ever weaker with 2 players arguably out of position  with monty as left back and Rodney on the wing. I'd rather see us go with Fitzpatrick at left back and Monty on the left.

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Dicko was terrible. I have no clue why everyone bangs on about this guy. 

Why does Fitzpatrick get stick so much? Is it because CJ Hamilton ran past him a couple of times in a friendly when he had no fitness? He's a solid L2 LB and had another dependable game again, cleari

Sproson didn't miss an opportunity to have a crack at both full backs guess he must have a few on his books he needs to move on.

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On the Scunthorpe game, I thought that Worral had a much better game when he moved over to the left hand side. Given his athletic ability, he also gets up and down supporting his LB - so I would continue to utilise him where he thrived last year. 

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Brown

Mills/Legge/Smith/Fitzpatrick

Burgess/Joyce/Conlon

Worrall/Conlon/Rodney

Visser/Brisley/Crooke/Whitehead/Oyeleke/Robinson/Montano

So disregarding the nine changes last game the same team as the season opener only with Manny and Monty on the bench in place of Tricky-Smith and Hurst......basically rotate Cullen and Robinson with say Cullen starting at home change on the hour and Robinson starting away maybe and we'll see Pope in October.....to think that matchday squad has Gibbons/Amoo/Pope and maybe Thomas to add in and there are going to be some basically first teamers that some weeks will not make the matchday squad.

 

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13 minutes ago, maccapvfc said:

On the Scunthorpe game, I thought that Worral had a much better game when he moved over to the left hand side. Given his athletic ability, he also gets up and down supporting his LB - so I would continue to utilise him where he thrived last year. 

I reckon Worrall only played on the left last season to help out Monty at left back, when everyones fully fit that Worrall / Gibbo combo on the right is one of the best things about the team.

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Thinking about the Askey 4/3/3 then while the Brown...Smith/Legge....Joyce....is the foundation and Cullen and Robinson will rotate as striker with Pope now a bit part player the key feature is the left and right triangles.....last season Monty/Conlon/Worrall on the left and Gibbons/Burgess/Amoo on the right.....now we have Mills and Fitzpatrick as full back options and in midfield Oyeleke and Whitehead with say new signing probably Thomas and Rodney who will become a fans favourite and can move central permanent next season when Pope has retired.....it looks such a strong and well balanced squad.

Just to think that solid back five of Brown/Gibbons/Legge/Smith/Montano and to also have a quality spare back five of Visser/Mills/Brisley/Crooke/Fitzpatrick.....then last seasons midfield three of Burgess/Joyce/Conlon and have Oyeleke and Whitehead but mostly if Askey goes with Worrall/Cullen(Robinson)/Rodney again then over the season there is Amoo possibly Thomas and Pope.

Strange thought but just perhaps Askey will use caution and leave Manny and Monty out of the matchday squad inorder to give them another week or two training before even using them as a sub in a league game as neither is 100% fit just yet and Hurst and Tricky-Smith might be the unused subs...still got the likes of Brisley/Whitehead/Robinson to cover any injury in defence/midfield/upfront.

 

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I think this will be tougher than we think. A few weeks ago, I had Crawley down as a possible relegation side and they have lost both their last two games (Millwall 1-3 at home and Gillingham 2-1 away). It's worth though reading the Gills report where after a poor first half they ended the better side with more shots and more on target. They have a good manager (the combative John Yems who got into an unpleasant exchange with Steve Evans - who else - with the ref having to intervene) and a decent mix of experienced and younger players. At Gillingham they apparently were excellent on the counter attack with real pace down the flanks.

Playing well and losing though is a bad sign and it looks as if they are going to miss Ollie Palmer's goals after his departure to AFC Wimbledon.  Up front they have Ricky German signed from non-league, Ashley Nadesan ex-Fleetwood who's only scored 18 goals in four seasons and Tom Nichols who managed over 34 in three seasons at Exeter early in his career but did next to nothing with Bristol Rovers.

Player for player we should beat them but they will surely attack down the flanks and we need to be ready. Personally, I'd prefer Monty at left back, for that reason alone, and I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable if Gibbo was playing. (Don't get me wrong, Mills has played well but at Scunny the goal came after he'd been skinned and he was close to giving away a peno in the second half on that same side.) This looks an easy fixture on paper but they will certainly give us a game.

I'd settle for a 1-0 win but who knows.    

 

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I’d go for the below.

Brown

Mills  Legge  Smith  Monty

Burgess  Joyce  Conlon

Worrall  Cullen  Rodney

I thought Monty looked fully fit, so he comes back in. Would love to start Manny, but it would be too much of a risk. I’d like to see Rodney down the middle, but Cullen’s form at home last season was very good, so it would a bit harsh to disregard that. I reckon Robinson needs a little bit more match fitness to be considered. 

Think it will be a tight game, so an early goal would be lovely to settle the nerves. Really looking forward to it! UTV. 

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7 hours ago, Vale Fan In DGardens said:

Sorted this morning me pass for the match looking forwards to it .

Going be tough Crawley were very good last time out against the Vale ,only a string of fine saves from Scott Brown got us a point at there ground last season .

Team well you would go for the ones who are in form and the ones who are eager to get on that turf and show the footballing world that Port Vales a very good team.

    Brown 

Mills Legge Brisley Fitzpatrick 

              Joyce 

Worrall     Conlon Burgess Rodney (Monty after a hr)for one of the two Burgess or Conlon 

          Cullen (Robinson on after 75)

Thats my team although I’m not really fussed who as  the shirts as long as they all pull in the same direction we can and will cause a lot of teams trouble ones hoping anyway UTV 

 

How does an away game last December have any bearing on this one ?

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1 hour ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I’d go for the below.

Brown

Mills  Legge  Smith  Monty

Burgess  Joyce  Conlon

Worrall  Cullen  Rodney

I thought Monty looked fully fit, so he comes back in. Would love to start Manny, but it would be too much of a risk. I’d like to see Rodney down the middle, but Cullen’s form at home last season was very good, so it would a bit harsh to disregard that. I reckon Robinson needs a little bit more match fitness to be considered. 

Think it will be a tight game, so an early goal would be lovely to settle the nerves. Really looking forward to it! UTV. 

Me too. At the moment, I think that looks our strongest side. It's encouraging to think as well that we have Gibbo, Manny, Robinson and Popey all potentially in contention over the coming weeks.

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2 hours ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I’d go for the below.

Brown

Mills  Legge  Smith  Monty

Burgess  Joyce  Conlon

Worrall  Cullen  Rodney

I thought Monty looked fully fit, so he comes back in. Would love to start Manny, but it would be too much of a risk. I’d like to see Rodney down the middle, but Cullen’s form at home last season was very good, so it would a bit harsh to disregard that. I reckon Robinson needs a little bit more match fitness to be considered. 

Think it will be a tight game, so an early goal would be lovely to settle the nerves. Really looking forward to it! UTV. 

Some suggestion on the net that Crawley have a bit of pace down the flanks so this is another reason to bring Monty back in.

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On 10/09/2020 at 13:15, PV1973 said:

I think left back area becomes ever weaker with 2 players arguably out of position  with monty as left back and Rodney on the wing. I'd rather see us go with Fitzpatrick at left back and Monty on the left.

Rodney was used as a winger at Stockport, Salford and Hartlepool,  he only played down the middle at Halifax(20 out of 94 appearances). So his experience is predominately as a left winger, though he has also played on the right. The issue is he wants to be a centreforward and I suspect at some point he will nail that position down. Askey is trying for more of a fexible front 3 this season, which will give Rodney an advantage over Amoo, who is more of an out and out winger. May also help McKirdy as he (ironically) has actually spent most of his career more centrally. Its only really at Carlisle McKirdy played on the wing and even at Carlisle he played some games in the middle of a front 3; though predominantly on the left.

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Same team that started the Scunthorpe game I can imagine will start tomorrow, I believe that’s what askey sees as his strongest 11 at the moment I’ve heard mckirdy although fit isn’t anywhere near match fitness so would be surprised if he is involved or gets on the bench for the game tomorrow, with us having plenty of other options - I’m going 3:0 vale tomorrow burgess cullen and Rodney getting the goals and if you saw my mckirdy prediction on the other thread might be worth putting couple of quid on my score prediction 😅😅😅😅

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