Gavin Williamson

[philpvfc]

3 hours ago, Andyregs said:

How do you know they wouldn’t be affected? There’s a few big assumptions being made here. 

Cause the Government have now back tracked and are allowing teacher estimates so why not just inflate estimates and get away with it?

[philpvfc]

1 hour ago, TheSage said:

It's odd how we trust teachers to educate and care for our kids but not to estimate their worth based on up to 7 years of teaching them (for A levels). Yet we trust without question plumbers, electricians, car dealers, dentists, GPs, etc. Why the difference? These people are professionals - it's an all graduate profession now, plus they all do an extra 12 months training and another 12 months on probation, so five years in all before they are fully qualified. Very few can match that. Many of them have also done the job for ages and have 30-40 years experience. But let's criticise and berate them. Williamson and the bloke in a fridge know best. Give me strength.

Naive at best, stupid at worst!

[Andyregs]

8 hours ago, philpvfc said:

Cause the Government have now back tracked and are allowing teacher estimates so why not just inflate estimates and get away with it?

I was asking why you think your wife’s school won’t be affected in the upcoming GCSE’s? You are just assuming it won’t. No one knows what those results would have been. ‘The blooming teachers can’t be trusted, and have all cheated, apart from my wife who did it properly.’

 

8 hours ago, philpvfc said:

Naive at best, stupid at worst!

Apart from your mrs 

[philpvfc]

21 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

I was asking why you think your wife’s school won’t be affected in the upcoming GCSE’s? You are just assuming it won’t. No one knows what those results would have been. ‘The blooming teachers can’t be trusted, and have all cheated, apart from my wife who did it properly.’

 

Apart from your mrs 

I was talking about what happened with the A level results, plus I wasn’t just referring to the Mrs, it was the whole school.

Teachers in a whole will have inflated their predictions and you are <ovf censored> stupid if you think otherwise. Even with the Government reducing 40% of results there has been a record amount of A plus results, funny that the student population has become the most intelligent year group ever during Covid!

[Andyregs]

1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

I was talking about what happened with the A level results, plus I wasn’t just referring to the Mrs, it was the whole school.

Teachers in a whole will have inflated their predictions and you are <ovf censored> stupid if you think otherwise. Even with the Government reducing 40% of results there has been a record amount of A plus results, funny that the student population has become the most intelligent year group ever during Covid!

The point is, they should Err on the side of caution. Yes some will get inflated grades but that’s better than some having their future plans ruined. They all can’t be taught by your mrs unfortunately. 

[For Us All]

On 17/08/2020 at 17:02, Jacko51 said:

How on earth is he still in a job?

I don't know,he's my 'Plank of the week".

[philpvfc]

3 hours ago, Andyregs said:

The point is, they should Err on the side of caution. Yes some will get inflated grades but that’s better than some having their future plans ruined. They all can’t be taught by your mrs unfortunately. 

And potentially ruin the futures of those who haven’t had their grades inflated? And it ain’t some!

[Fosse69]

On 17/08/2020 at 17:02, Jacko51 said:

How on earth is he still in a job?

He cant be sacked, they cant find Wally

[philpvfc]

2 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Why will it ruin there future?

Well those who have been downgraded are the ones complaining that their life’s have been ruined but if they hadn’t and had ended up with the higher grades then they could be the ones getting the university places instead. 

[Jacko51]

15 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

He cant be sacked, they cant find Wally

Shouldn’t be hard!

 

[Jacko51]

As and A*s rose by 4.7% at fee paying institutions under the algorithm but only by 2% at comprehensives.  That clearly shows the algorithm was biased in favour of the posh kids.  Also, Ofqual said the vast majority of teachers had submitted accurate estimates to exam boards.

[Jacko51]

I have just seen a definition of Johnsonism.

"Johnsonism" now has a definition: it is the political strategy where a government heads at full speed towards a widely predicted problem; hits the problem; denies that it's a problem; waits a week; then does a U-Turn and blames the problem on someone else.

[Joe B]

17 hours ago, TheSage said:

It's odd how we trust teachers to educate and care for our kids but not to estimate their worth based on up to 7 years of teaching them (for A levels). Yet we trust without question plumbers, electricians, car dealers, dentists, GPs, etc. Why the difference? These people are professionals - it's an all graduate profession now, plus they all do an extra 12 months training and another 12 months on probation, so five years in all before they are fully qualified. Very few can match that. Many of them have also done the job for ages and have 30-40 years experience. But let's criticise and berate them. Williamson and the bloke in a fridge know best. Give me strength.

Actually really nice to read this, cheers mate. 

[Jacko51]

19 hours ago, TheSage said:

It's odd how we trust teachers to educate and care for our kids but not to estimate their worth based on up to 7 years of teaching them (for A levels). Yet we trust without question plumbers, electricians, car dealers, dentists, GPs, etc. Why the difference? These people are professionals - it's an all graduate profession now, plus they all do an extra 12 months training and another 12 months on probation, so five years in all before they are fully qualified. Very few can match that. Many of them have also done the job for ages and have 30-40 years experience. But let's criticise and berate them. Williamson and the bloke in a fridge know best. Give me strength.

The thing is, Sage, everyone has been to school so they all know what teachers do and what a cushy job it is.  I've been on an Intercity 125 but I'm buggered if I'd know how to drive one!

[Mario]

Would there be a risk that teachers and headmasters in particular would be "lenient" on results knowing that Ofsted mark on results and they would like as high a position in the league table as possible ?