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This is from a Guardian article and shows the selfish, money grabbing PL for what it is. "does its bit" don't make me laugh...

The EFL is also looking for financial support from the Premier League and believes it should expect it, after government made support for the football pyramid part of the conditions for restarting elite football in June.

The Premier League, meanwhile, continues to point to its own losses – estimated at about £80m a month without fans in grounds - and says it already does its bit to support the game.

Now they start to moan about losses when they've bragged for decades they can run with empty stadiums, my heart friggin bleeds. Fans have been let back in sport in France and Russia, clubs have worked so hard to put everything in place to get fans in its shocking to have it taken away so late on
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Unfortunately, as we've seen throughout this pandemic, the powers that be haven't got a clue.  They keep talking about "the science" but neither the science, nor just plain old common sense, back up many of the decisions being made.  They're making it up as they go along.

Science, and common sense, would tell us that a properly managed outdoor event can't possibly pose the same risk as a large number of people gathering indoors, such as in the confines of city centre pubs and restaurants, who then, under current rules, all spill out onto the street at 10 o'clock to mingle freely.

Whoever dreams up these ideas clearly doesn't spend much time thinking about them in any depth.

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On 26/09/2020 at 18:07, ollyandpatch said:

Whatever anybody thinks of how politicians are doing we are faced with a possible major crisis. I was one of the first to state back in February that the season would not finish and working in the pharmacy business without a vaccine this virus won't be going anywhere. We have dispatched over a million flu doses to our branches and are desperate to get more in. Imagine mumps, rubella, chicken pox, and measles without a vaccine, I would expect that the government will throw money at this as it gets worse but that won't stop people getting infected, including footballers, coaches, managers etc. My prediction for what it's worth is that as games get called of (just two today) on a more regular basis and winter starts to take its toll football I'm afraid will end at the beginning of December. I pray I am way off the mark as I miss my Saturdays in the railway stand and hope all fellow Valiants stay safe....UTV.

 

Now, where did I put that noose

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On 28/09/2020 at 21:41, Guitar Ray said:

Unfortunately, as we've seen throughout this pandemic, the powers that be haven't got a clue.  They keep talking about "the science" but neither the science, nor just plain old common sense, back up many of the decisions being made.  They're making it up as they go along.

Science, and common sense, would tell us that a properly managed outdoor event can't possibly pose the same risk as a large number of people gathering indoors, such as in the confines of city centre pubs and restaurants, who then, under current rules, all spill out onto the street at 10 o'clock to mingle freely.

Whoever dreams up these ideas clearly doesn't spend much time thinking about them in any depth.

So hundreds of Vale fans don't want a pre match pint, they then don't queue together to get in the ground. When inside they then sit apart as instructed and wouldn't dream of tearing up any tape that indicates a seat shouldn't be sat on, even though they've sat on the same seat for 25 years. When Vale score they don't jump up hugging and shaking hands. They don't chant, shout at the ref  or sing at any point and completely ignore Glad All Over if Vale score. At the final whistle  they all leave the ground seperately whilst social distancing and don't all spill out at the same time to mingle freely. Of course the thought of another pint or two in Burslem doesn't cross their minds as they walk home  in silence whilst wearing their masks.

 

 

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If you can social distance queuing to get in a supermarket, you can do the same queuing at the turnstile and at the kiosks, obviously you woudlnt be able to hang around on the concourse. Im sure people would be prepared not to sit in their normal seat if it meant they could actually go and watch/support the club they love.

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If you can social distance queuing to get in a supermarket, you can do the same queuing at the turnstile and at the kiosks, obviously you woudlnt be able to hang around on the concourse. Im sure people would be prepared not to sit in their normal seat if it meant they could actually go and watch/support the club they love.
I think you're underestimating how weird people get about 'their' seats. I've seen fights break out over a seat when the seat to either side of it was free. There was even someone on here who said that he would be happy for the club to lose money by keeping a virtually empty stand open just so he could keep his seat! You can't legislate for the weirdness of people
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