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I think the amount of appearances he’s made and his overall performances speak for themselves. This crisis isn’t going to last forever so I think clubs will be keen to take him, all they’ve got to do is better vales  wage offer. But let’s say it’s a league 2 club that come in for him,  other than wages why would he go? Because when the promotions are sorted out for this season I think we will be one of the favourites for next season as we are IMO a club on the up.

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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

With regard to Smith, how keen will other clubs be to sign a lad on decent money who will have to be paid in full from day one when they have no income?

You know all of those League 1 clubs desperate to finish the season because they have the cash?

Them.

Whilst most clubs will struggle, the likes of Ipswich, Sunderland, Portsmouth, P'boro will no issues whatsoever financially.

I won't be shocked if the likes of Salford sniff around either; they'd have no problems lobbing another grand onto his weekly pay.

Teams who don't have to worry about cash flow are set to benefit big-time from all this.

Smith is a no-brainer; 250 games at 24, rarely injured, very consistent, good in the dressing room, dependable, has all the intangibles that can't be taught with regards to decision-making and reading the game. He's got goals in him. He won't command ludicrous wages. Players like Smith are a precious commodity in the 3rd and 4th tier. There's no gamble; you know exactly what you're getting, and that's a very steady centre half.

Any League 1/wealthy League 2 club would be daft not to offer a contract to him. I imagine we can do little more than offer similar terms than what he had before.

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17 hours ago, valeparklife said:

I'll confess I'd never heard of Boyle before, but a quick Wikipedia scan shows he was signed by John Askey at Macclesfield in 2015 from Huddersfield so there could be a connection there...!

Good height, good age and experience - he's from near Leeds to so may welcome the chance to move closer to home?

Interesting piece about Boyle in wiki: "...made his debut on 21 November 2015 when starting York's 3–2 away to Leyton Orient, in which he struggled to cope with the physicality of opponent striker Ollie Palmer."

Maybe we'll get them both.

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I've had my eye on Jamie Soule, a lad from West Brom who led the PL2 scoring stakes for a while this season.
He went on loan to Barrow in January, but due to the form of Angus and Quigley, only managed two sub appearances amounting to 15 minutes before the postponement.
Cheltenham and Lincoln wanted him as well, so he's well-rated.


Signed him on season loan for Stockport on ChampMan. He was <ovf censored>!!!
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It will be interesting to see what JA does with the fringe players this summer too.

Ryan Campbell-Gordon appears to be highly rated and seems to have all the attributes to be an attacking LB. Could he come more into the squad as a back-up if Monty is first choice? Or would a loan spell at say National League level be of use?

However, I feel a bit sorry for Dan Trickett-Smith - signed by the previous owner he hasn't seemed wanted by two managers now. I wonder if a move to a non-league side in the summer would be best for both parties?

Alex Hurst is an interesting one. He got some really good feedback for his training and performances in the friendly games and seems the sort of versatile player who could be on the bench to cover a number of positions. I wonder if he will come into the squad or whether they think he still needs to learn and a loan at a higher level  (he hasn't even appeared in the National League so perhaps a spell there) would help his development.

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40 minutes ago, robf said:

It will be interesting to see what JA does with the fringe players this summer too.

Ryan Campbell-Gordon appears to be highly rated and seems to have all the attributes to be an attacking LB. Could he come more into the squad as a back-up if Monty is first choice? Or would a loan spell at say National League level be of use?

However, I feel a bit sorry for Dan Trickett-Smith - signed by the previous owner he hasn't seemed wanted by two managers now. I wonder if a move to a non-league side in the summer would be best for both parties?

Alex Hurst is an interesting one. He got some really good feedback for his training and performances in the friendly games and seems the sort of versatile player who could be on the bench to cover a number of positions. I wonder if he will come into the squad or whether they think he still needs to learn and a loan at a higher level  (he hasn't even appeared in the National League so perhaps a spell there) would help his development.

I think you are spot on with DTS and Hurst... long loan spells at the highest level possible would do them the world of good.

 

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1 hour ago, robf said:

It will be interesting to see what JA does with the fringe players this summer too.

Ryan Campbell-Gordon appears to be highly rated and seems to have all the attributes to be an attacking LB. Could he come more into the squad as a back-up if Monty is first choice? Or would a loan spell at say National League level be of use?

However, I feel a bit sorry for Dan Trickett-Smith - signed by the previous owner he hasn't seemed wanted by two managers now. I wonder if a move to a non-league side in the summer would be best for both parties?

Alex Hurst is an interesting one. He got some really good feedback for his training and performances in the friendly games and seems the sort of versatile player who could be on the bench to cover a number of positions. I wonder if he will come into the squad or whether they think he still needs to learn and a loan at a higher level  (he hasn't even appeared in the National League so perhaps a spell there) would help his development.

Last season at the club and last opportunity for DTS to make it as a footballer. Think he was signed after Aspin left, so he's only had one manager. 

The other 2 will be reviewed at the end of preseason as to whether a loan spell is the next step I'd guess. 

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Hurst probably needs to step up to the National League. I know game time is good but Bradford PA came bottom and seemed to get stuffed most weekends. Not sure that would of been beneficial for him ? Maybe it toughened him up ?

Trickett-Smith the legacy that the blue one left us with. Come to some agreement might be the best way forward for both parties. 

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15 hours ago, robf said:

It will be interesting to see what JA does with the fringe players this summer too.

Ryan Campbell-Gordon appears to be highly rated and seems to have all the attributes to be an attacking LB. Could he come more into the squad as a back-up if Monty is first choice? Or would a loan spell at say National League level be of use?

However, I feel a bit sorry for Dan Trickett-Smith - signed by the previous owner he hasn't seemed wanted by two managers now. I wonder if a move to a non-league side in the summer would be best for both parties?

Alex Hurst is an interesting one. He got some really good feedback for his training and performances in the friendly games and seems the sort of versatile player who could be on the bench to cover a number of positions. I wonder if he will come into the squad or whether they think he still needs to learn and a loan at a higher level  (he hasn't even appeared in the National League so perhaps a spell there) would help his development.

I thought that left back was a constant problem area for us last season until Clark came back. Teams mainly seemed to favour that side playing on either Monty or Crookes. We looked much better with Clark there, being critical  I’d say an aspect of his game that he needs to improve is that he can have a tendency to get caught with long balls over his head. However there’s no doubt we looked much more balanced with real full backs on the pitch rather than make do wingers and centre halfs. So with that being said you’d think that Campbell Gordon would be seeing this as his opportunity to break through, I see this as his make or break season.  

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I thought that left back was a constant problem area for us last season until Clark came back. Teams mainly seemed to favour that side playing on either Monty or Crookes. We looked much better with Clark there, being critical  I’d say an aspect of his game that he needs to improve is that he can have a tendency to get caught with long balls over his head. However there’s no doubt we looked much more balanced with real full backs on the pitch rather than make do wingers and centre halfs. So with that being said you’d think that Campbell Gordon would be seeing this as his opportunity to break through, I see this as his make or break season.  
I thought RCG looked good in the limited pre season games I saw, and he seemed to have a decent loan spell. Hopefully he goes away and puts a bit of muscle on over the summer and he could be the answer at left back.
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53 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

I thought that left back was a constant problem area for us last season until Clark came back. Teams mainly seemed to favour that side playing on either Monty or Crookes. We looked much better with Clark there, being critical  I’d say an aspect of his game that he needs to improve is that he can have a tendency to get caught with long balls over his head. However there’s no doubt we looked much more balanced with real full backs on the pitch rather than make do wingers and centre halfs. So with that being said you’d think that Campbell Gordon would be seeing this as his opportunity to break through, I see this as his make or break season.  

I wonder whether we would benefit from telling Monty "You are a left back" and then training him exclusively in that role rather than have him as a forward option.

Some of the performances he has put in at Left back have been outstanding... coaching him exclusively to be one might be the solution.

Askey knows best.

Ideally we would get Mitch Back, but I think that will prove difficult, he stands out at this level and I think will have offers to go higher.

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I do know that RCG is very very very highly rated by the vale, and turned down clubs higher up the league to sign with us again.

The interesting dynamic is that if he runs down his contract and leaves, we would still be due a fee (I think he is still young enough).... that fee however would be based on a number of things and the amount of game time he gets with us will be a big one.

Its an interesting challenge, if we were not pushing for promotion, playing him and letting him develop would increase his value.... but is that too much of a risk in a promotion chasing season (which hopefully we will be in).

Fascinating indeed!

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5 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

I wonder whether we would benefit from telling Monty "You are a left back" and then training him exclusively in that role rather than have him as a forward option.

Some of the performances he has put in at Left back have been outstanding... coaching him exclusively to be one might be the solution.

Askey knows best.

Ideally we would get Mitch Back, but I think that will prove difficult, he stands out at this level and I think will have offers to go higher.

That's a really excellent point IC. Sometimes being a utility player does you no favours , Phil Neville springs to mind despite an excellent career . 

Hate to pick individuals as it's a team game but there is no doubt that early season a few goals came from Crookes side and also Monty was culpable for a few, most noticeable was Walsall. 

We all love it when Monty goes on a rampaging run , but I think you have made a really valid point. 

Let's give Monty the number 3 shirt and it's his to concentrate on and his to lose.

Amoo ,Browne ( if both sign ) and Worrall are 3 good options for attacking width so let Monty become the best left back at the club by right not by default. 

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