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49 minutes ago, Tony Rougier said:

Who's going to score the goals? Who's going to create the clear cut chances for the goals? Everything I've seen so far of the new players screams bang average league 2, top half league 2 at best. We look solid but thats not difficult when we play such a negative formation with experienced players.

For me we are relying on the same players we kept from last season. Conlon will probably be our top scorer (if not then I dread to think where our goals will come from) Jake Taylor to bring his form back from 2 years ago so that we have a bit of creativity (Manager doesn't like him though), and Smith and Legge (Only retained because we were forced to keep him) to keep us solid. How is that great recruitment?

I accept I'm being overly negative too early on but I just don't see it changing that much. It could easily go the other way if the fans turn.

Let's just hope it's down to a tough start to the season and things pick up soon

Fair enough Tony but I really see similarities for us when Flickers was manager at Mansfield.

Slow start drawing games hard to beat playing 352. Bring in a young forward on loan end of transfer window(Tyler Walker) to fire in the goals . Sounds familiar?

Hopefully we don't collapse at the end of the season like his Mansfield side did.

Its early days 4 league games old our pattern fo play I certainly still developing I'm certain it will pick up soon and you feel more optimistic.

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I've weighed in a lot on this post recently because of how mugged off I felt Tom Pope came across on it as a paying Vale fan watching 'his' team play, but I do want to reiterate that I do love the podcast and appreciate the perspective it brings. I was more pissed off at his choice to do it than you guys approaching him, it's your right as freelance/independent fans to get that perspective.

It definitely helps to relate as a fan (as someone also put earlier) when it doesn't have any affiliation with the club officially and can see the lads are massive genuine vale fans themselves. 

Look forward to the Forest Green pod - keep up the grand work.

 

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Yes, the podcast is up! Just Danny and Jonny, hopefully the last time for a while. They recap the superb victory at Forest Green, talking about why the formation works, Jamie Proctor and James Wilson!

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Pod was a replica of my thoughts. I certainly picked up Wilson’s closing down, positional play and technical ability. Smudge had a fantastic game for me, Matt is a powerful/ awkward character. Garity full of running. Proctor’s ability to hold the ball up by taking a step back rather than meeting it with a heading attempt was superb. Man on his back could not win it.

One thing I noticed again was how many free kicks Devante gives away that gives the opposition the ball back.

Overall, still bouncing on a Monday after the win even though Devon weather has been gloomy today.

Hope Stu that the house move went well! That, brings back some memories!

 

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6 minutes ago, Coyney Valiant said:

Noticed Manny wasn’t in chesterfields squad for the opening2games is he still there or is he possibly injured does anybody know 

Don't know... Brisley isn't in the squad for LaLaLand FC tonight either...

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On 22/08/2021 at 12:21, Santa said:

All in all it’s just a really unpleasant way for it all to come to an end. With the indifferent start we’ve had, it has the potential to unsettle the club and the support for some time to come.

 

Yes, deeply unpleasant though I don't think it will unsettle the club. We're on a new path, have a clear way forward and the early signs are that it is beginning to work, especially on the pitch - where it counts. We also have owners who are going to ensure, as far as they can, that we don't have the resource problems that have dogged us in the past. 

Sad to say, the person it has the potential to unsettle is Tom himself. On his own admission he is full of anger and hate and refuses to let it go; his dire predictions about our season - even before it's properly started - may prove totally unfounded; and I'm sure some fans will now make a point of not attending his testimonial, which would be a pity, given his service to the club.

This all would have been better left unsaid so that fans could remember Tom in the best possible light.

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3 hours ago, Dangermouse3 said:

Pod was a replica of my thoughts. I certainly picked up Wilson’s closing down, positional play and technical ability. Smudge had a fantastic game for me, Matt is a powerful/ awkward character. Garity full of running. Proctor’s ability to hold the ball up by taking a step back rather than meeting it with a heading attempt was superb. Man on his back could not win it.

One thing I noticed again was how many free kicks Devante gives away that gives the opposition the ball back.

Overall, still bouncing on a Monday after the win even though Devon weather has been gloomy today.

Hope Stu that the house move went well! That, brings back some memories!

 

VTID

Went as well could be expected! Always a few issues but sorted now. Back on Friday, finally with a decent internet connection

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1 hour ago, CambridgeDon said:

Yes, deeply unpleasant though I don't think it will unsettle the club. We're on a new path, have a clear way forward and the early signs are that it is beginning to work, especially on the pitch - where it counts. We also have owners who are going to ensure, as far as they can, that we don't have the resource problems that have dogged us in the past. 

Sad to say, the person it has the potential to unsettle is Tom himself. On his own admission he is full of anger and hate and refuses to let it go; his dire predictions about our season - even before it's properly started - may prove totally unfounded; and I'm sure some fans will now make a point of not attending his testimonial, which would be a pity, given his service to the club.

This all would have been better left unsaid so that fans could remember Tom in the best possible light.

There’s no way I’m going his testimonial now, especially after all his tweets. Why should I spend my hard earned money for him to spend on fags and beer?

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There’s no way I’m going his testimonial now, especially after all his tweets. Why should I spend my hard earned money for him to spend on fags and beer?
Better than him wasting it.
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Rochdale preview!

We're joined by friend of the show Jamie to run through a busy week! Two signings, a FL Trophy game and a supporters club meeting are all subjects to discuss. Then we get into a Rochdale preview who have had a tough summer after being relegated from League One and are trying to find their feet. Can it be the perfect opportunity to get going at home?

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

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22 hours ago, PV1973 said:

Looking forward to an episode straight after the game from the pub when we lose again. 

Yes definitely need one of them at some point! The review is out from the Rochdale game. A disappointing afternoon defensively. I really do believe it's just an off-day. You don't turn into a bad defence overnight. 

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Being done the day after definitely takes the edge off it.

 

I actually think you were a little generous with Benning on the first goal. Yes he’s unlucky to slip, but I’m not sure he should have gone that far inside to press anyway, him going that far meant that it gave their fullback the full pitch to run into. Arguably we have 3 centre halves back anyway who should have dealt with the ball in, but I think Bennings decision was a bad one. 

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3 hours ago, PV1973 said:

Being done the day after definitely takes the edge off it.

 

I actually think you were a little generous with Benning on the first goal. Yes he’s unlucky to slip, but I’m not sure he should have gone that far inside to press anyway, him going that far meant that it gave their fullback the full pitch to run into. Arguably we have 3 centre halves back anyway who should have dealt with the ball in, but I think Bennings decision was a bad one. 

Our preference is to do the pod Saturday. I think for the last few weeks however (and I think for this Saturday!) I don't think it's possible. We don't want anyone calming down too much, I was absolutely seething after the Rochdale game with the defending.

Benning, maybe we were a tad soft on him. However, someone could've closed the cross down, and Martin certainly should have done better challenging for the ball. 

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