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Enjoyed the return to proper episodes. Great to hear Jonno back to form knocking points off players for not getting the ball quickly enough for a free kick or for not having their hair style combed correctly or whatever it was that upset him over Conlon. I couldnt make my mind up what he meant about Wilson, wants him to do more running but then thinks he shouldnt do so much work outside the box. I also thought Smith was better than what jonno rated him, he was positionally than Johnson yesterday IMO, Johnson was too narrow when the ball went behind Jones, he needed to come wider quicker and that side was a bigger problem than down the worrall/smith side. Was smith knocked off points for something that wasn’t given as a foul when they scored? 

I agree with the comment above about doing just key points of the game and I also liked you getting into the big talking points early doors like you did with worrall and Wilson. 

The Worrall debate is a good one, I get that he isn’t as good a defender as Gibbo but I agree with @stupers that despite yesterdays performance he played well for us in that role last season. The problem with wingbacks is that if you put Gibbo there that you probably won’t get the same quality as worrall when he is higher up the pitch because he isn’t a natural winger. But he will add energy, drive and be better defensively. I think the only way in a wingback system to get worrall further forward is go 3-4-3, which then presents an issue of who does he choose for the 2 central midfield roles out of Conlon, pett and Walker. But I’m convinced that this seasons recruitment policy has been based on us playing wing backs and those will be a choice between worrall, Gibbo, Benning and Jones. 

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All opinions. Thought your Smith/Worrall bashing was way off. All our rubbish defending was down our left. Where Jonson had a 'mare and poor old Jones didn't know what to do,  his job or cover Johnson's balls ups. Three times we screwed up there in the first half. Could have been three, luckily they only scored one.

So I agree with Baggers, Smith was the best of the three.

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Cheers for the positive comments on the new format. We all said we enjoyed it more than talking through each incident in the game. We'll see how it goes, but so far so good.

I too was surprised with the Smith knocking from Jonny. Although he was daft for their goal (easily a penalty if they hadn't scored) I didn't think he was awful, and certainly no worse than Johnson the other side. With Wilson, I didn't think he was awful, but just didn't get involved enough although it's possible the setup was to play over the top to Rodney to run on to rather than in to Wilson's feet. When he did get on the ball, Wilson had some nice touches. Like toyahw says, all opinions. 

It'll certainly be interesting to see what side we put out tonight. I'd like to see Benning play. Does that move Jones inside to play CB instead of Johnson. Maybe Cass gets a run out? I'm not a big fan of these early cup games, and I always hope we treat them as an extra friendly-plus to try a couple of other things out before we head back to league action. 

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Some good talking points on the latest review, in particular the wing back debate. I always remember Benning as a left back when he’s played against us, yet Johnny thought he wasn’t a full back. Bez was hinting at something else going on with Jake Taylor, from what I’ve seen he (along with Gibbo) are doing extra sessions to build up their fitness in addition to the regular training sessions with the rest of the squad. Looking forward to getting them both back to give us some different options. 

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Stevenage preview!

We quickly recap any final thoughts from Carlisle before going in to a Stevenage preview. They started well with 2 wins before a thrashing at Bradford on Tuesday. Can we finally grab our first goal of the season and a win? Two of us seem to think so! 

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

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And in a double drop in 24 hours for us, we're releasing our interview with Tom Pope that we did this past Monday. It's comes in just over 3 hours long by the time it was all done! We cover his career and time at Vale including:

- Early days trying to make it as a professional footballer

- Time at Rotherham as their joint record signing

- The Jim Gannon era

- Signing permanently for Micky Adams

- Promotion season and 33 goals, including our favourite goals

- Lee Collins

- Signing for Bury and his two years there

- Return to Vale and his work with Michael Brown and Neil Aspin

- John Askey, the captaincy and that relationship

- The Man City game

- The Flitcroft/Clarke appointments and his release from Vale

 

There's a lot to take in over the whole of the episode. He obviously goes in to a bit more detail about his release from Vale and how that was handled. We're aware that it isn't positive, however we felt that it was an interesting interview that people should get to hear. As we say on the pod, these are Tom's words and there are two sides to every story. Enjoy!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

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3 hours ago, stupers said:

And in a double drop in 24 hours for us, we're releasing our interview with Tom Pope that we did this past Monday. It's comes in just over 3 hours long by the time it was all done! We cover his career and time at Vale including:

- Early days trying to make it as a professional footballer

- Time at Rotherham as their joint record signing

- The Jim Gannon era

- Signing permanently for Micky Adams

- Promotion season and 33 goals, including our favourite goals

- Lee Collins

- Signing for Bury and his two years there

- Return to Vale and his work with Michael Brown and Neil Aspin

- John Askey, the captaincy and that relationship

- The Man City game

- The Flitcroft/Clarke appointments and his release from Vale

 

There's a lot to take in over the whole of the episode. He obviously goes in to a bit more detail about his release from Vale and how that was handled. We're aware that it isn't positive, however we felt that it was an interesting interview that people should get to hear. As we say on the pod, these are Tom's words and there are two sides to every story. Enjoy!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

Thanks for that, just stopped myself from hitting play on Spotify to save it for later as it and the 30 minute match preview will give me something to do on the long trek down a garden shed in Hertfordshire tomorrow. 

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