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17 hours ago, stupers said:

I think we've been more positive today!

For that first 20 mins as I was watching the game I thought that it was very similar to last week at Carlisle in that our formation (mainly the wing backs) were getting overloaded at times and Bradford were playing in the space behind them. Clearly when worrall or Gibbo had the ball in the opposition half then the opposite wing back must have been told to push high, but when the ball broke down they hit that space theyd left behind them. But after their goal I felt the tide turned in our favour and both Worrall and Gibbo grew into the game a lot more. Both were defensively good and both were good on the ball. Any threat they'd posed in that first 20 was gone, so credit to both of them and in particular worrall who has shown his versatility by looking decent defensively. 

I felt gibbos only difference to last week is that he didn’t fluff a clearance down the line which gifted them a cross in to the box, which suits your narrative of him being responsible for giving goals away through conceding possession  (I’m still not completely convinced by that claim) and I think that influenced Jonnys bad score for him. Equally up the other end of the pitch I thought that Robinson worked his balls off just as much as last week, held it up well again, was a handful for their centre halves and I thought his only difference to last week was that he got a well deserved goal.

I disagreed a touch with I think Bezs assessment of joyce, in that first 20 when Bradford were using the channels well, I felt that joyce was the one who should have been sitting deeper when the wing backs pushed on. But no doubt other that opening spell he had a great game. 

I’m convinced though that next season we will line up with 4 at the back, I can’t shake the feeling that we only went 5 at the back to shore things up. There’s no denying either that wing back does not get the best out of Monty, worrall or Gibbo attacking wise. 

One observation in this episode that’s stood out to me was the mention of robinsons workrate. I think that’s been evident across the whole team and we’ve gone back to that pressing game, with multiple players closing down and working hard for each other. But that workrate begins with the forwards, once they set the press and the tempo then I think that sets the whole team on the way. In fact I’d say that once we got back into the game I never thought we’d lose it. 

Another enjoyable episode anyway.

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Thanks, it's just enjoyable to get back to talking about winning and trying to be positive. Can't disagree with what you're saying above. There is evidence for judging the Bradford game in many ways. As I said on the pod, we had gone too long without giving away a clear cut chance, and Bradford took it. 

I see what you're saying about 5 or 4 at the back, but I really don't like the idea of us playing 4-4-2 next year with Clarke saying he prefers two up top. And that's essentially what we're committing to in one form or another. With teams coming to Vale Park and it being a big pitch (And Clarke saying he may expand the pitch), I think it would be a mistake to commit to 2 central midfielders when most teams will come and play 3 in midfield. I like the idea of Gibbons and Monty at wingbacks, but I agree Worrall would be out of shape there. I still think 4-3-3 should be considered, with Rodney and Worrall on either wing and a new striker up top. 

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I think he will play all formations and bring in the players needed to do that. 5-3-2 is just a means to an end for this season because of the slow defense he inherited. I would imagine 4-1-3-2 will be his home set up next season but who cares as long as we are winning

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23 hours ago, dishydave said:

I think he will play all formations and bring in the players needed to do that. 5-3-2 is just a means to an end for this season because of the slow defense he inherited. I would imagine 4-1-3-2 will be his home set up next season but who cares as long as we are winning

I'm sure he will have players who are adaptable to both sets. I think he'll do something about a pacier centre back in the summer. Wouldn't you say though with 4-1-3-2 (Presuming the 3 is a LW, No 8/10, RW that you're leaving really short in the centre when we're making the pitch bigger? That's my main concern.

I have thought for years that we need to have a base home formation that means 3 in the middle of the park. I like 5 at the back, and I also liked the 4-3-3 Askey played (Although he was relatively inflexible beyond that). A formation with 4 at the back and 2 up front, means we either sacrifice the middle of the park or the wings. Neither seem a good option for me!

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3 hours ago, stupers said:

Hey! We're talking to Ian Taylor tomorrow. Does anyone have any questions you'd like us to ask? Send them in below and I'll pick them up and include them if we can!

Thanks, Stupers. He always said the best decision he ever made was to sign for the Vale so, if you have time, ask him what the contrast was like playing for Moor Green one day and then Port Vale the next. Was the adjustment hard to make? There must have been four or more tiers difference between the two!

PS tell him we think it was the best decision he ever made as well! 🙂

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Mansfield Preview available now!

Lots to talk about this week! 2 years of Carol and Kev, season tickets, fans forums, monthly awards and Monty all on the menu, with plenty to smile about. Then a quick chat about whether we can finish the season with a bang against Mansfield, who have been up and down for most of the season.

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

Thanks as well to all the people who sent in questions for Ian Taylor. It was a great time to catch him and we tried to ask him everything we had!

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Mansfield Review!

A shocking game and result from Vale to finish the season. Not many coming out of the game with much credit and not many helping themselves earning a contract! We run through the game, before running through what we think Vale do with each player out of contract, and you can join in too! Listen to the list, and then tell us on Twitter, Facebook or OVF what you would do with each player. Most correct predictions gets a free pint with us at Johny's when the season starts!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

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Mansfield Review!
A shocking game and result from Vale to finish the season. Not many coming out of the game with much credit and not many helping themselves earning a contract! We run through the game, before running through what we think Vale do with each player out of contract, and you can join in too! Listen to the list, and then tell us on Twitter, Facebook or OVF what you would do with each player. Most correct predictions gets a free pint with us at Johny's when the season starts!
Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com
I think they will offer Brown, Pope and Monty a deal at much reduced rates.

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16 hours ago, stupers said:

Mansfield Review!

A shocking game and result from Vale to finish the season. Not many coming out of the game with much credit and not many helping themselves earning a contract! We run through the game, before running through what we think Vale do with each player out of contract, and you can join in too! Listen to the list, and then tell us on Twitter, Facebook or OVF what you would do with each player. Most correct predictions gets a free pint with us at Johny's when the season starts!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

Congratulations on your first season. It’s been an enjoyable listen throughout. It got off to a bad start in that first episode when you had Bez talking in an outside toilet half a mile from a microphone, but it’s been essential listening for me over the season. 

 

I think Jonny can look back with some embarrassment on the 1 he awarded to Conlon not too long ago, without the understanding of the new job the manager had asked him to do.  Describing him as dogshlt and did he also say he shouldn’t wear the shirt too? (I could be wrong on that final point). 
 

But overall I’ve looked forward to listening in every week and the interviews thrown in every so often have mixed it up too.  Hope you keep it going next season. 

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Hahahaha that comp did not have long to run.

 

I just want to say thanks for a grate pod lads.

 

Stue pleas talk in to your mic. Some times it sounds like you are a mile away from it and then jonny and bezer are rite up in my head lol.

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