Ale and the Vale Podcast

[stupers]

11 hours ago, Smallthorne Dog said:

Ive long suspected that McKirdy, Robibson and Clarke werent Askey signings or that he was heavily leant on to bring them in.
I also believe he has wanted rid of Pope for a while and has been prevented from doing so.
All that does is send signals to the players that the manager has no authority. When you combine this with the facy that one or two didnt like him in the first place, it has created a situation where the players rule the roost and we have gone from a cohesive unit with a strong dressing room to a circus in a matter of months.
Askey isnt responsible for that, ultimately someone else at the club is. We could play Agatha Christie all day (is it Carol, Patrick, Rudgie, Sinclair, Garlick?) but that wont alter the situation.
Carol needs to hold her hands up and admit the mistakes but ultimately despite it not being down to him and despite plainly having the rug pulled from underneath him, Askey cant fix it, and he has to go.

It's a fair point Rob. We've heard the rumours about those 3 not necessarily being his signings, but I haven't seen/heard any proper evidence. Plenty of smoke on those ones however.

We were talking about it on our whatsapp group last night after the 'Busgate' rumour turned up (I've seen several things to confirm that story was not accurate). It really depends on the other roles at the club and how they intertwine with Askey's. If you bring other people in to the football side, without the manager being involved in the decision and it not supposed to impact his role, then it's going to impact his authority regardless. He needed a tight dressing room, with everyone pulling in the same direction. The signings and potentially also this disruption have made a right mess. I don't know anything for sure, but I don't think it's all Harry McKirdy. If it was you'd just have paid him up.

I doubt we'll find out what's truly happened. What I do know is that this has to come to a conclusion one way or another at some point, because the club can't continue like it is at the moment.

 

[stupers]

Emergency Pod!

We tried to keep it short, but failed yet again! Askey is gone, and we have a final discussion on why we ended up at this point. Then we look to future, and discuss the names out there and whether they would be a fit for the club. It's a big couple of weeks for the club, lets see where it goes! Are there any names we didn't mention that you like the sound of? Let us know!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

[stupers]

Grimsby Preview!

A quiet week again at the Vale! We talk Taylor and other transfer targets, then get in to the manager situation and discuss a couple of names that have cropped up during the week. Then into a Grimsby preview against a manager who surely would have been on Vale's shortlist if available. Signs of improvement in their first game under Paul Hurst, will that continue? And what will Pugh do to get Vale back on track.

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

[Joe B]

1 hour ago, stupers said:

Grimsby Preview!

A quiet week again at the Vale! We talk Taylor and other transfer targets, then get in to the manager situation and discuss a couple of names that have cropped up during the week. Then into a Grimsby preview against a manager who surely would have been on Vale's shortlist if available. Signs of improvement in their first game under Paul Hurst, will that continue? And what will Pugh do to get Vale back on track.

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

Discussions are really good at the minute lads. Like the differing viewpoints.

Interesting chat about Murray. Mansfield fans do speak fairly decently about him, and Barnsley are a really innovative club with Beane (it seems that Murray has stuck around through the managerial changes, always a good sign).

He'd bring analytics/sports science to the club which we seem to have been lacking for years. It'd be a gamble but maybe he could be a clever move. 

Edited January 8, 2021 by Joe B

[PV1973]

We already use analytics and sports science. 

[valefan16]

We already use analytics and sports science. 

Sure we’ve had it since at least Brown, sure on one of the meet the manager nights pre season with him and Morgan they went through it all.

[Joe B]

If we're using them, we're not using them very well.

[PV1973]

Aspin got rid of it and then Askey brought it back in. 

[stupers]

I would wonder how much we used analytics in terms of our recruitment and matchday preparation under Askey. I would consider him more of an 'old school' manager. If anyone has an answer to that I would be interested to find out!

[stupers]

Here's our Grimsby review!

A 3-0 victory, Pugh's the man! It wasn't perfect but so much better than some of the performances served up recently. We run through the game and why we think the performance was markedly different to the Mansfield game. We then have a quick chat on whether Pugh has increased his chances of the full-time gig, and whether pulling a win out reduces the need for an 'experienced' manager.

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

 

[stupers]

Our Forest Green preview is up!

A busy week at Vale, with lots to talk about including two new signings! Then we delve into the Forest Green game, they've been playing well but had a couple of big outgoings from their squad. Can Vale take advantage?

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

[MBE]

49 minutes ago, stupers said:

ur Forest Green preview is up!

A busy week at Vale, with lots to talk about including two new signings! Then we delve into the Forest Green game, they've been playing well but had a couple of big outgoings from their squad. Can Vale take advantage?

Should be a bumper edition with all the goings on this week! 

[stupers]

Certainly was!

[stupers]

Forest Green Review!

We're joined by OneValeFan founder Rob Fielding who gives us his thoughts on the game, and how the manager situation lies now after 2 league games under Pugh. Did Vale play well and give a good away performance, or was it a missed opportunity? We go in depth on the game!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

[CAVALIER]

7 hours ago, stupers said:

Forest Green Review!

We're joined by OneValeFan founder Rob Fielding who gives us his thoughts on the game, and how the manager situation lies now after 2 league games under Pugh. Did Vale play well and give a good away performance, or was it a missed opportunity? We go in depth on the game!

Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

Enjoyed it again . Not sure about Lipa though...