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Who are your worst Port Vale central midfielders?


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54 minutes ago, eh up nah said:

Never rated Danny Sonner personally. 

DEFINITELY not the worst but he struck me as a bit "emperors new clothes."

He'd come over, whoop up the crowd, clap everyone, pump the badge. Then take his corner and hit the feet of the first man.

 

I take your point, but he was a wonderful passer of the ball. One of the very best for Vale in my lifetime. Another great player who should be nowhere near this thread. 

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Some strange nominations on the previous page.  Lipa for me should be nowhere near it.  If you watch the 03/04 highlights that have been posted on youtube during the lockdown he actually plays some very good passes into to McPhee, Brooker and attacking players.  He was better than he looked but joining English football at 33/34 can't have been easy.

Amoros I thought had one excellent game at home to Scunny played a couple more(wasn't so good) then was never seen again was he injured then as Brown took over from Bruno and didn't fancy him probably so difficult to judge if he'd have been any good.  Shalaj never got a chance although he was a winger. 

Rocastle now there's another who runs MacKenzie and Davidson close! 

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On 13/04/2020 at 08:49, darren1810 said:

Amazed to see Lipa mentioned in the same vein as some of the other dross.

For me it's thoroughly deserved. I used to watch him closely and in games he barely made a tackle and didn't cover any ground. I'm bemused others have a different opinion of him because for me, our other midfielders got totally overrun when he played cos he barely moved from the centre circle. Considering some of the other names didn't arrive with anything like the hype he did (the "Austrian Beckham") or on his wages, I think he's a definite candidate. And considering he then managed to racially abuse an opponent, his spell was nothing short of a disaster.

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We really have got an embarrassment of riches for these two positions.

I wouldn't have Lipa on my short list. He'd be in the next group up (not very good either!) because he had the odd game/flash of inspiration where he did quite well and changed the game (with the emphasis on the word odd, very odd) but he was a huge disappointment. He came with a fanfare of trumpets and looked the part but blimey his career nosed dived. He reminds me a lot of several of Bruno's foreign legion - arrived on the crest of a wave but holed and sunk by the New Year. Wasn't he capped by Austria? Not that it's relevant.

You are right, Rob. It's strange how we all have different opinions and memories of players. But it makes for an interesting debate.

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On 14/04/2020 at 15:06, CAVALIER said:

Given that Harsley is in charge of Man City’s elite squad, perhaps we should tap him up for a few of their wonder kids

Seems be to be highly rated in football; progressed from Scunnys U23s, to the Birmingham Academy, then Barnsley's U23 Coach, and now management probably the second most productive academy in England at City.

Wonder if he'll transition to senior coaching.

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14 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Seems be to be highly rated in football; progressed from Scunnys U23s, to the Birmingham Academy, then Barnsley's U23 Coach, and now management probably the second most productive academy in England at City.

Wonder if he'll transition to senior coaching.

Think he stood in temporarily at Barnsley as their manager too Joe. He won’t leave his current role surely unless offered mega bucks. Just shows you that not the greatest players make the better managers etc. 

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2 hours ago, krakaddict said:

You're maybe thinking about Andy Clarke? 

I do remember us having Darrell and him playing about 90 seconds for us.  He was from Hartlepool, they thought quite highly of him.  

I do remember Andy Clarke as well.  The no scoring striker from Wimbledon!  Not heard him mentioned in years!

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On 15/04/2020 at 09:40, robf said:

For me it's thoroughly deserved. I used to watch him closely and in games he barely made a tackle and didn't cover any ground. I'm bemused others have a different opinion of him because for me, our other midfielders got totally overrun when he played cos he barely moved from the centre circle. Considering some of the other names didn't arrive with anything like the hype he did (the "Austrian Beckham") or on his wages, I think he's a definite candidate. And considering he then managed to racially abuse an opponent, his spell was nothing short of a disaster.

This brings out a legitimate point. I wouldn't say a Ford Fiesta is a crap car and Bentley a good car using the same measurement. Clearly for the money the Fiesta probably is a good car and maybe the Bentley is too if money no object. So if our man Lipa was a really lazy dude and lived on his 23 minute international record to open doors but got paid lots of dosh then he could be worst ever if we are calling out some players who got paid buttons and played like that? Perhaps Exodus G escapes if he was super super super mega super cheap. 

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9 hours ago, Warren said:

This brings out a legitimate point. I wouldn't say a Ford Fiesta is a crap car and Bentley a good car using the same measurement. Clearly for the money the Fiesta probably is a good car and maybe the Bentley is too if money no object. So if our man Lipa was a really lazy dude and lived on his 23 minute international record to open doors but got paid lots of dosh then he could be worst ever if we are calling out some players who got paid buttons and played like that? Perhaps Exodus G escapes if he was super super super mega super cheap. 

The relative wage rates of players is certainly a consideration when judging players. Burgess would probably be the signing of the summer on that criteria. The problem on using it as a criteria is that as fans we don't know what people are paid. We do know there will be a big differential between, say, Pope and Burgess.

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