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The Chancellor was on 5 Live this morning and came across as a teenager on steroids waffling about a subject he had yet failed to grasp. An appalling interview.

Some of us have been telling you for years that austerity was stupid and the way to get the economy moving was through investment not strangulation. I'm please to see the government have finally acknowledged that basic fact of economics and taken a leaf out of Labour's book, though after ten years of running down services and widespread austerity they have a very long way to go.

 

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1 hour ago, robf said:

I was listening to the news this morning and it was raised that the one area that wasn't mentioned in the budget was financial support for the care workers and sector. While all the support for companies (sick pay, tax relief  etc) is fair enough (and I believe going to be supported cross-party) there is a very real question that care workers are potentially going to be in the frontline for several months now (e.g. care homes and the elderly housebound are going to be high risk) and there are no measures in place for them to receive extra funding and resources.

I wonder if the government will look at addressing this? I'm not making a party political point by the way, I think tackling Coronavirus should be something we do apolitically but to me it does seem that a vital (and in my personal view "amazing") group of people were forgotten about yesterday.

Good points Rob, I definitely agree that this is above politics. I would hope that they have something planned for care workers. Their job is really tough as it is and they would deserve all the support that they can get.

 

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40 minutes ago, TheSage said:

The Chancellor was on 5 Live this morning and came across as a teenager on steroids waffling about a subject he had yet failed to grasp. An appalling interview.

Some of us have been telling you for years that austerity was stupid and the way to get the economy moving was through investment not strangulation. I'm please to see the government have finally acknowledged that basic fact of economics and taken a leaf out of Labour's book, though after ten years of running down services and widespread austerity they have a very long way to go.

 

You have to see Sage that this is not about stimulating the economy? This is about dealing with the potentially diastrous threat that is coronavirus?

I think the budget generally went down extremely well and I've not seen anyone criticising Sunak to the level you have. He's being tipped as a future PM already.

 

They're honestly not taking a leaf out of labours book - Labour just got historically trounced about 12 weeks ago. Why would anyone take anything out of a book about abject failure?

 

I know we look at different sides of the coin on most issues, I would suggest that had labour been in power for the past 10 years we would be in a far worse place to combat the virus.

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2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

Did I miss the investment in adult social care in the budget?  Didn't the PM say he had a plan for this?  When is the government green paper on it, due in 2017 and postponed 6 times so far, going to be published?

Jacko51 comeon credit where its due, for a tory budget that was bloody good, even the labour frount bench could only nit pick, and regarding the social care if he says hes a plan, give him a chance to sort all the details out before announcing it to the world, if he fails then we can pull him down...also there's more important things for them to be doing eg trade deals, transition dealings, this bloody virus, green papers will come when the toilet rolls finally disappear.

 

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21 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

Jacko51 comeon credit where its due, for a tory budget that was bloody good, even the labour frount bench could only nit pick, and regarding the social care if he says hes a plan, give him a chance to sort all the details out before announcing it to the world, if he fails then we can pull him down...also there's more important things for them to be doing eg trade deals, transition dealings, this bloody virus, green papers will come when the toilet rolls finally disappear.

 

For a Tory budget it was a bloody miracle and finally, an acceptance by them that ten years of austerity have been madness.  I only asked about adult social care because the PM said before the election that he had a plan ready to go so I expected some reference to it in the budget, especially the green paper has been on the go for over two years.

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2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

For a Tory budget it was a bloody miracle and finally, an acceptance by them that ten years of austerity have been madness.  I only asked about adult social care because the PM said before the election that he had a plan ready to go so I expected some reference to it in the budget, especially the green paper has been on the go for over two years.

Also the green paper on grooming gangs which is strongly suggested to be why the home sec. was pushing the civil servants including rutnam to get it published...

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On 11/03/2020 at 19:19, Jacko51 said:

The Tory supporters on here blathered on during the election about how Labour would overspend and get us into trouble by borrowing too much money.  Looks like Boris and Co don't agree.

They're in a position to do that now because they have managed to reduce the deficit to around 2% of GDP from the near-10% it was in 2010 after the Labour profligate years!

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1 hour ago, Bycarsbill said:

They're in a position to do that now because they have managed to reduce the deficit to around 2% of GDP from the near-10% it was in 2010 after the Labour profligate years!

They have not said where all the money is coming from, investment does not come out of current spending it is borrowed.

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4 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

They're in a position to do that now because they have managed to reduce the deficit to around 2% of GDP from the near-10% it was in 2010 after the Labour profligate years!

So having spent all that time reducing the deficit because it was a bad thing they have now decided they must increase it again??

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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

So having spent all that time reducing the deficit because it was a bad thing they have now decided they must increase it again??

why the ??, the govt. have helped the country because of this virus, plus the promised investment in projects, and all that and more can be done now because of those austerity years have put the country in a lot better position... and think what or even how much we would be borrowing if we hadn't had those years, thank God the tories won in 2010...or we would be deep deep in the SH*T.

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47 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

why the ??, the govt. have helped the country because of this virus, plus the promised investment in projects, and all that and more can be done now because of those austerity years have put the country in a lot better position... and think what or even how much we would be borrowing if we hadn't had those years, thank God the tories won in 2010...or we would be deep deep in the SH*T.

The Tories didn’t win in 2010 

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4 hours ago, Davebrad said:

why the ??, the govt. have helped the country because of this virus, plus the promised investment in projects, and all that and more can be done now because of those austerity years have put the country in a lot better position... and think what or even how much we would be borrowing if we hadn't had those years, thank God the tories won in 2010...or we would be deep deep in the SH*T.

Just tell us what is different between what Bozza is planning and what Jezza would have done. The answer - nothing. 

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