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I agree with Leedsvaliant too. Coronavirus is a nasty disease that has been blown up out of all proportion to its threat. Lockdowns, masks and social distancing don't work. Sadly it looks like the so called vaccine is not that good either.
So what would you do?

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28 minutes ago, portvaleofbelvoir said:

I agree with Leedsvaliant too. Coronavirus is a nasty disease that has been blown up out of all proportion to its threat. Lockdowns, masks and social distancing don't work. Sadly it looks like the so called vaccine is not that good either.

Tell that to the 26 year old who sadly died last week who had no vaccines 

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I agree with Leedsvaliant too. Coronavirus is a nasty disease that has been blown up out of all proportion to its threat. Lockdowns, masks and social distancing don't work. Sadly it looks like the so called vaccine is not that good either.
Yep. No doubt a nasty virus for a certain element of the population but even then not a death sentence. In fact even the highly vulnerable have got to be incredibly unfortunate to die from it.

When we look back on it and assess who actually died of Covid and also the excess deaths I am convinced this will be looked back on as the single biggest disaster of a health policy in history.

All of the interventions have not done anything except for make things worse and almost certainly cause more deaths.

The difficulty we have is that the propoganda has been so good that anyone that questions the actions is deemed a granny killer or selfish. I think ultimately these people will be vindicated.

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24 minutes ago, leedsvaliant said:
52 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:
Tell that to the 26 year old who sadly died last week who had no vaccines 

Extremely, extremely unlikely event. Very sad but highly unfortunate. 26 year olds die of a multitude of things including flu unfortunately.

However extremely unlikely u put it it’s happened last week 

My comment was on the vaccine is useless comment as its quite obvious if it was not for that we would be <ovf censored> 

 

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Some Labour MPs were invited to the ‘virtual ‘ quiz but they couldn’t find anyone with a brain cell in the party.BTW Starmer states Boris is not fit to be PM but will be voting with him on Tuesday.Gutless ,No Policies,Wet blanket springs to mind.Johnson is a tool but Starmer...🙄

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2 hours ago, FriedRice said:

Im wondering if all those people who are saying being made to wear masks is a form of control and the danger is so low from the virus is not worth bothering over bother to wear seat belts in cars because the chance of going through a windshield is so low or dont carry mobile phones because they track your location. I dont mind if people dont wear masks just dont turn up at hospital or expect me to have sympathy if it all goes bad for you.

Your analogy only works if the argument for seatbelts is that you should wear them to protect people in other cars. Otherwise, seatbelts is a classic example of why people should be able to make their own mind up....they know they work, hence 99.9% of people wear them.

 

As for the idea that we should remove health care from people based on behaviours....I'm not sure I've seen a more evil idea posted on this website. Where are all the NHS fanatics who would surely be outraged by such an idea?

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Can someone explain why people visiting the UK from abroad need to test to come over and then isolate for 2 days and then test again?

Isn't the UK's problem the number of cases inside the UK? They have the most cases of this variant outside of South Africa. 

In contrast, people visiting Austria just need to be vaccinated within the last 270 days. Incidence rate is below 100, we wear masks everywhere we go and we haven't been able to get into bars / restaurants without being vaccinated or tested since the summer. 

Seems like people value some freedoms more than others resulting in stupid hoop jumping that has no impact on the numbers of cases. 

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16 hours ago, tommytunstall said:

No people want rid of COVID. And if restrictions are required so be it.

But please can you explain how the restrictions are going to get rid of covid?

 

We were locking down whilst we waited for vaccines. It didn't get rid of covid.

We wore masks to stop the spread. It didn't get rid of covid.

1st dose...

2nd dose...

3rd dose...

Now we're looking at forced vaccinations (how many doses will be forced on people out interest)

And Covid Passports (which prevents healthy unvaccinated people from living and doesn't prevent vaccinated people with covid)

 

So what restrictions will actually get rid of covid? What is the magic vaccination number? Will you be queuing up in 12 months time for your 7th dose of vaccine and still be saying "if only we could get more vaccines out, then it will all be over?"

 

At what point do you start to realise that the restrictions aren't working like they tell us they're working?

 

 

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Some Labour MPs were invited to the ‘virtual ‘ quiz but they couldn’t find anyone with a brain cell in the party.BTW Starmer states Boris is not fit to be PM but will be voting with him on Tuesday.Gutless ,No Policies,Wet blanket springs to mind.Johnson is a tool but Starmer...
Not what Starmer said, he like most of the country are supporting the NHS not the rotten government.

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32 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
2 hours ago, Howjy04 said:
Some Labour MPs were invited to the ‘virtual ‘ quiz but they couldn’t find anyone with a brain cell in the party.BTW Starmer states Boris is not fit to be PM but will be voting with him on Tuesday.Gutless ,No Policies,Wet blanket springs to mind.Johnson is a tool but Starmer...emoji849.png

Not what Starmer said, he like most of the country are supporting the NHS not the rotten government.

So he is voting with the government or he’s voting against it?Whatever suits his political agenda?Who’s the coward now?

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2 minutes ago, Howjy04 said:

So he is voting with the government or he’s voting against it?Whatever suits his political agenda?Who’s the coward now?

He is voting in parliament for something he believes in for the benefit of the NHS and the people, the purpose of a  MP. What this pathetic Government makes of it he has not  control, unlike the Clown that hides in fridges.

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