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What shall we do about the people who are clamouring to prove covid is some sort of hoax? And anti vaxxers? Public hanging? Placed in stocks? Perma ban from the internet? 
I don't agree with those who see Covid as some sort of hoax. These people clamouring for more restrictions seem to get all the air time and when they get proven wrong, again, there's never any comeback.
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Not the number of physical beds that matters, it is having the specialist medical staff to deal with the patients.
I agree but we've had 2 years to sort it. Again, perhaps more energy should be concentrated towards training nurses up than rehearsing tiktok dances.

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11 minutes ago, leedsvaliant said:
5 hours ago, Fosse69 said:
Not the number of physical beds that matters, it is having the specialist medical staff to deal with the patients.

I agree but we've had 2 years to sort it. Again, perhaps more energy should be concentrated towards training nurses up than rehearsing tiktok dances.

Perhaps more energy to prevent the virus. It certainly works successfully in other countries 

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Oh god! The modellers are now saying that we could be down to 5000 cases a day by Christmas. With their previous high levels of accuracy I'm now betting on a 10 year lockdown to squash the sombrero. I'm going to order 10,000 masks off Amazon and book in for my next 15 jabs just to be extra safe. I'd also better order some tinned food in. Stay safe everyone.

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13 hours ago, leedsvaliant said:

Oh god! The modellers are now saying that we could be down to 5000 cases a day by Christmas. With their previous high levels of accuracy I'm now betting on a 10 year lockdown to squash the sombrero. I'm going to order 10,000 masks off Amazon and book in for my next 15 jabs just to be extra safe. I'd also better order some tinned food in. Stay safe everyone.

I've got 16,000 toilet rolls in so let me know if you need any.

 

Also, you should get more masks, that's only 2,500 days worth if you are like me, and care about people so much that I wear 4 at a time.

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On 24/10/2021 at 13:10, leedsvaliant said:
On 24/10/2021 at 09:20, WV said:
 
What shall we do about the people who are clamouring to prove covid is some sort of hoax? And anti vaxxers? Public hanging? Placed in stocks? Perma ban from the internet? 

I don't agree with those who see Covid as some sort of hoax. These people clamouring for more restrictions seem to get all the air time and when they get proven wrong, again, there's never any comeback.

Are they competing with Insulate Britain for air time?

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2 hours ago, For Us All said:

Are they competing with Insulate Britain for air time?

I have no time for people blocking motorways and disrupting normal people as they go about their daily lives. 

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On 25/10/2021 at 21:50, leedsvaliant said:

Oh god! The modellers are now saying that we could be down to 5000 cases a day by Christmas. With their previous high levels of accuracy I'm now betting on a 10 year lockdown to squash the sombrero. I'm going to order 10,000 masks off Amazon and book in for my next 15 jabs just to be extra safe. I'd also better order some tinned food in. Stay safe everyone.

Despite what is happening in your La La land, cases are now rocketing, ok due to the Vaxxing the numbers in hospital’s although rising are not as high as last time. But the cases seriously are, I know a lot of the Tories and their pals are making money out of it, i.e PPE, T and T, Randox etc, but for a change let’s see a bit of deciveness and get to grip with this virus.

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Double jabbed people are catching Covid and passing it on to those they live with, warn experts who have studied UK household cases.

Individuals who have had two vaccine doses can be just as infectious as those who have not been jabbed.

Even if they have no or few symptoms, the chance of them transmitting the virus to other unvaccinated housemates is about two in five, or 38%.

This drops to one in four, or 25%, if housemates are also fully vaccinated.

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Despite what is happening in your La La land, cases are now rocketing, ok due to the Vaxxing the numbers in hospital’s although rising are not as high as last time. But the cases seriously are, I know a lot of the Tories and their pals are making money out of it, i.e PPE, T and T, Randox etc, but for a change let’s see a bit of deciveness and get to grip with this virus.
I ask you again. Why do cases matter?
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Despite what is happening in your La La land, cases are now rocketing, ok due to the Vaxxing the numbers in hospital’s although rising are not as high as last time. But the cases seriously are, I know a lot of the Tories and their pals are making money out of it, i.e PPE, T and T, Randox etc, but for a change let’s see a bit of deciveness and get to grip with this virus.
And just to put you straight, cases aren't rocketing, they've fallen as much as 40% week on week for some days in the last week. If you pay so much mind to cases, why would you not mention this? More importantly, hospitalisations and deaths are flat, that's if we believe that all deaths registered are from Covid and not with it.

What I think Tommy is that you don't like this government or Tories (understandable) and basically all your arguments are in contrast to whatever the government is doing, with no actual basis for your argument.

I'm no fan of the government but they've been right to hold their nerve. Even the doom monger scientists are saying that implementing any restrictions would be pointless and might actual create a bigger problem further down the road. They even produced some optimistic models which pointed to very low cases over Christmas! Although I take this with a pinch of salt given their appalling track record.

Have you noticed how all those demanding plan B be implemented immediately have gone quiet? I presume they will all go on national TV to apologise that they were massively wrong? I presume we'll get an apology from you too?

I feel sorry for Wales with harold bishop in charge. Another one (like sturgeon) who has contempt for his own people and will do the exact opposite of Westminster to score political points rather than any concerns for public health. It's actually quite amusing that Wales has a supposedly worse situation than England, yet has a better vaccination rate, has mandatory masks and vaccine passports! Yet nobody can join the dots!

It's highlighted to me that people can't think for themselves.

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Because the delta variant is so transmissible there will always be new cases until it's eradicated, if ever.

Hence why it's so important there are now effective vaccines and medicines to help prevent/treat the disease (COVID-19) caused by the coronavirus and hence why it's now paramount for the world to get back to "normality" asap with whatever precautions are required.

Unfortunately some people will develop severe disease and some will not make it no matter how effective the vaccines and medicines.

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18 hours ago, leedsvaliant said:

And just to put you straight, cases aren't rocketing, they've fallen as much as 40% week on week for some days in the last week. If you pay so much mind to cases, why would you not mention this? More importantly, hospitalisations and deaths are flat, that's if we believe that all deaths registered are from Covid and not with it.

What I think Tommy is that you don't like this government or Tories (understandable) and basically all your arguments are in contrast to whatever the government is doing, with no actual basis for your argument.

I'm no fan of the government but they've been right to hold their nerve. Even the doom monger scientists are saying that implementing any restrictions would be pointless and might actual create a bigger problem further down the road. They even produced some optimistic models which pointed to very low cases over Christmas! Although I take this with a pinch of salt given their appalling track record.

Have you noticed how all those demanding plan B be implemented immediately have gone quiet? I presume they will all go on national TV to apologise that they were massively wrong? I presume we'll get an apology from you too?

I feel sorry for Wales with harold bishop in charge. Another one (like sturgeon) who has contempt for his own people and will do the exact opposite of Westminster to score political points rather than any concerns for public health. It's actually quite amusing that Wales has a supposedly worse situation than England, yet has a better vaccination rate, has mandatory masks and vaccine passports! Yet nobody can join the dots!

It's highlighted to me that people can't think for themselves.
 

Cases are rocketing don’t know where you get your info from. It is widely reported that cases are now rising more than any other time in the pandemic. Personally I know a lot of people who have caught it this last week.

After visiting 2 other European countries during the last week it is blatantly obvious why are cases are going up, we do not wear masks even on public transport, nightclubs and dancing venues still open, and school kids not taking up the vaccine.

I have no axe to grind with the Tories, I have voted for them in the past. But this Government have let this slip big style.

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