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And? They're not going to become seriously ill or die and the people they might pass it on to are as protected as they'll ever be.  Basically we're panicking because some 20 somethings are catching a cold.
Catching a cold ?????

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33 minutes ago, leedsvaliant said:

And? They're not going to become seriously ill or die and the people they might pass it on to are as protected as they'll ever be.  Basically we're panicking because some 20 somethings are catching a cold.

Why don’t you take a break from peddling your usual rubbish. COVID is far far more serious than a cold, you could keep quiet as respect to the thousands who have suffered and are still suffering from Covid 

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Dawn Butler thrown out for calling out Boris to be a liar. What a disgrace from the speaker. Boris lies time and time again in parliament on record and gets away with it. Someone calls him out for what he is and gets kicked out. Unbelievable mess our undemocratic parliament is in
I remember a prime minister lying about weapons of mass destruction nothing new there

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36 minutes ago, Mario said:
1 hour ago, ginge said:
Dawn Butler thrown out for calling out Boris to be a liar. What a disgrace from the speaker. Boris lies time and time again in parliament on record and gets away with it. Someone calls him out for what he is and gets kicked out. Unbelievable mess our undemocratic parliament is in

I remember a prime minister lying about weapons of mass destruction nothing new there

That was one lie this clown Doris lies every time he opens his mouth 

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On 21/07/2021 at 15:30, Mario said:

Soaring cases. Highest death toll in Europe. Worst-hit major economy. Businesses closing. A million kids off school last week. Millions to self-isolate. Boris Johnson let a new variant in and is causing mass confusion on public health advice. Heading for a summer of chaos.

This post hasn't aged well in 1 day. Anyone who can read data would have been able to see that the curve hit its peak at the end of last week. Predictably reported "cases" are 9,000 down on Thursday last week. Stop spreading fear, you're worse than independent SAGE

 

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1 hour ago, tommytunstall said:

Why don’t you take a break from peddling your usual rubbish. COVID is far far more serious than a cold, you could keep quiet as respect to the thousands who have suffered and are still suffering from Covid 

I knew that would ruffle some feathers but I wasn't directly comparing Covid to a cold.  I've said throughout that it's a very nasty illness for a certain demographic, predominantly 80 plus or with a number of comorbidities. Yes there are exceptions but statistically the vast majority of people below 30 have either no symptoms or symptoms akin to a cold.  I just can't comprehend why people are getting ruffled.  I'm in my late 30s and my chance of dying from it is something like 0.006%, virtually none existent.  Even my parents in their late 60s would have to be massively unlucky to even be hospitalised.  I sympathise for those that have lost loved ones but unfortunately death is inevitable and we can't just stop living in order to prevent dying. 

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1 minute ago, AMF said:

This post hasn't aged well in 1 day. Anyone who can read data would have been able to see that the curve hit its peak at the end of last week. Predictably reported "cases" are 9,000 down on Thursday last week. Stop spreading fear, you're worse than independent SAGE

 

The usual wildly inaccurate models then?  I can't believe people keep listening to these modellers, they should have been sacked months ago!

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To offset Mario's fear mongering, its worth noting that of the 1,575 positive tests recorded in the 7 days up to 16th July in Stoke on Trent, only 5 were of people over the age of 80. The link has definitely been broken in the upward transmission to the most vulnerable groups, and with more people gaining double jab immunity everyday that link will be broken even more so. It begs the question, is a system of social exclusion proposed by vaccine passports proportional when the vaccine has already mitigated against death to this degree? Personally I feel that anyone who supports medical segregation and a two tier system in society is no better than a racist. 

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4 hours ago, AMF said:

To offset Mario's fear mongering, its worth noting that of the 1,575 positive tests recorded in the 7 days up to 16th July in Stoke on Trent, only 5 were of people over the age of 80. The link has definitely been broken in the upward transmission to the most vulnerable groups, and with more people gaining double jab immunity everyday that link will be broken even more so. It begs the question, is a system of social exclusion proposed by vaccine passports proportional when the vaccine has already mitigated against death to this degree? Personally I feel that anyone who supports medical segregation and a two tier system in society is no better than a racist. 

Bad choice of words mate. 

It is discrimination against protected groups and an infringement on freedoms. 

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13 hours ago, AMF said:

To offset Mario's fear mongering, its worth noting that of the 1,575 positive tests recorded in the 7 days up to 16th July in Stoke on Trent, only 5 were of people over the age of 80. The link has definitely been broken in the upward transmission to the most vulnerable groups, and with more people gaining double jab immunity everyday that link will be broken even more so. It begs the question, is a system of social exclusion proposed by vaccine passports proportional when the vaccine has already mitigated against death to this degree? Personally I feel that anyone who supports medical segregation and a two tier system in society is no better than a racist. 

What a load of <ovf censored>. There’s something wrong with you if you actually think what you have written in your last sentence 

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15 hours ago, leedsvaliant said:

And? They're not going to become seriously ill or die and the people they might pass it on to are as protected as they'll ever be.  Basically we're panicking because some 20 somethings are catching a cold.

You keep saying this but I know a number of people. Not 1 or 2 in their 20s who have been extremely ill with covid. One is a personal trainer with no health issues, who had to go to hospital. Another a teacher who caught it off the school kids, again extremely ill. Another (who did have asthma) was on a ventilator.  I understand they may be in the minority. But it’s <ovf censored> disgusting to refer to a virus that’s killed so many people to a cold. 
 

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Just now, For Us All said:

Just in case anybody missed it Covid cases have dropped by 30% since last Friday.

Good news.  

Do you know if the amount of people tested is down since schools off? 

Imagine lot's of app deletions may have contributed too.

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9 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

You keep saying this but I know a number of people. Not 1 or 2 in their 20s who have been extremely ill with covid. One is a personal trainer with no health issues, who had to go to hospital. Another a teacher who caught it off the school kids, again extremely ill. Another (who did have asthma) was on a ventilator.  I understand they may be in the minority. But it’s <ovf censored> disgusting to refer to a virus that’s killed so many people to a cold. 
 

You must be very unlucky.  I know thousands of people indirectly and I know of one person who has been in hospital (he was over 70 and in pretty poor health) still survived though. 

I clearly am not equating Covid to a cold.  I'm saying that most people who get it in their 20s and 30s suffer cold like symptoms.  There are very, very few who require hospital treatment, so the odds of you knowing 2 must be huge. Remember, under 60 with no underlying health conditions there's been about 6 or 700 deaths. 

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17 hours ago, ginge said:

Good news.  

Do you know if the amount of people tested is down since schools off? 

Imagine lot's of app deletions may have contributed too.

Yes it's great news,perhaps we should reduce the number of tests more often,works wonders?

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17 hours ago, leedsvaliant said:

The models already looking shaky I see.  I thought we were meant to be up to a million cases a day by now?  What a surprise!

I take your point, but a 'slight' exagerration I think--no statistical models showed 1mil infections per day--the majority estimates suggested around the 100k mark with only one I saw suggesting that 200k might at worst be reached!

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