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On 18/05/2021 at 07:51, JohnJames said:

Everyone under 36 is ineligible for the vaccine. Those with health issues in that group will have already had it. That’s a lot of people.

Not true. I was just vaccinated literally five minutes ago and I'm 31

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On 18/05/2021 at 21:32, leedsvaliant said:
On 18/05/2021 at 20:32, sunny boslem said:
What was our prepared pandemic plan??

Unbelievably, we had a plan in place for such an event (actually for a worse event in terms of deaths and hospitalisations) . We scrapped it in order to copy China and Italy and with pressure from France. It didn't involve full population lockdowns, something which has never been tried (in spite of what people might tell you ).

You mean like the Swedish model?  Well, that worked well!  Brazilian style!

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You mean like the Swedish model?  Well, that worked well!  Brazilian style!
Sweden..the country that has performed relatively well in spite of not completely trashing its economy? That Sweden?

Or Florida, or some other states that have performed ok in spite of few restrictions?

You can't just say that restrictions work because some places that didn't have them had more deaths. Some of the strictest places in the world have suffered the most.

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On 18/05/2021 at 15:59, leedsvaliant said:

But anyone under 36 without underlying health issues will not be hospitalised or die. The chances of anyone under 60 becoming ill or dying from Covid-19 who do not have underlying health issues is virtually zero in terms of % . I think there was about 400 people at last count out of 68 million.

That's what I don't get. Virtually 100% of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated, most of them fully and vaccines are showing a much higher real world efficacy than even the trials. With that in mind, we could have millions of 'cases' but if it doesn't translate into hospitalisations and deaths then what is the risk? It's the usual health leaders with their insane 'models' (proven wrong time and time again) that are panicking leaders because they're afraid of losing their 15 minutes of fame.

400 out of 68m? Really? So there are 68m under 60s who caught covid? Pretty impressive made up numbers there. 

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Can't see much/anything on the bbc news page about the confirmation from the government that the vaccine does combat the indian variant.

Lorraine did her bit this morning. Top Doctor was on there talking about it.

Thought that would definitely be something to shout from the rooftops.

Seems not.

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400 out of 68m? Really? So there are 68m under 60s who caught covid? Pretty impressive made up numbers there. 
Try reading. Around 400 people with no known underlying conditions under the age of 60 have died from Covid-19 (or with). Not made up, it's all there on the government statistics.

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Payroll numbers have bounced back for the 5th month in a row and about 84,000 extra people have found work compared to the previous quarter.Bank of England experts have reassessed their gloomy forecasts for the unemployment peak and predict that the jobless rate will now reach only 5.5%,down from 7.75%.A huge economic bounce back in 2021 is expected  to drive a speedy recovery.

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52 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Payroll numbers have bounced back for the 5th month in a row and about 84,000 extra people have found work compared to the previous quarter.Bank of England experts have reassessed their gloomy forecasts for the unemployment peak and predict that the jobless rate will now reach only 5.5%,down from 7.75%.A huge economic bounce back in 2021 is expected  to drive a speedy recovery.

Beware this post is from the Tory propaganda department, Stoke branch.

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54 minutes ago, Wrex said:

Spain has just lifted all restrictions on UK visitors whilst Germany has just completely banned all UK visitors. Funny old game politics.

Not surprised really,UK tourists spent 18 billion euros in 2019 and contribute 24% of the total number of visitors to Spain.

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2 hours ago, For Us All said:

More positive news for TT.

More than 50 million vaccine doses have now been administered in England.Well done to all concerned

Thanks FUA. I have stated before the Governments handling of the Vaccine is commendable. But then there is Track and Trace, delays in supplying PPE, delays in lockdown and closing borders, especially India. Treatment of Care homes. Perhaps you have these stats?

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1 hour ago, tommytunstall said:

Thanks FUA. I have stated before the Governments handling of the Vaccine is commendable. But then there is Track and Trace, delays in supplying PPE, delays in lockdown and closing borders, especially India. Treatment of Care homes. Perhaps you have these stats?

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1 hour ago, tommytunstall said:

Thanks FUA. I have stated before the Governments handling of the Vaccine is commendable. But then there is Track and Trace, delays in supplying PPE, delays in lockdown and closing borders, especially India. Treatment of Care homes. Perhaps you have these stats?

I'm trying to cheer everybody up as we come out of lockdown not depress them.Try and look on the bright side.

Cheers.🍺🍺🍺🍺

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