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13 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Sorry that’s a crazy post. Labour or not surely you can see how much of a <ovf censored> up he has made. I honestly don’t think he could have handled the whole thing from the start any worse. 

Really??

Obviously anti Boris!

yes, mistakes have been made but the vaccine rollout has been handled extremely well, for a start the EU handled it worse. Lockdowns, although some may argue they could have been earlier/ later, longer/ shorter, Brazil has handled it worse.

it’s easy to criticise but the Government could have handled it a lot worse. 

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1 minute ago, philpvfc said:

Really??

Obviously anti Boris!

yes, mistakes have been made but the vaccine rollout has been handled extremely well, for a start the EU handled it worse. Lockdowns, although some may argue they could have been earlier/ later, longer/ shorter, Brazil has handled it worse.

it’s easy to criticise but the Government could have handled it a lot worse. 

Early on I really don’t think they could have handled it any worse. Fair enough on the vaccine front I will give him / the government credit where it’s due. But early days into covid was a complete shambles. That’s not being anti Borris that’s just what it was. 

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6 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Really??

Obviously anti Boris!

yes, mistakes have been made but the vaccine rollout has been handled extremely well, for a start the EU handled it worse. Lockdowns, although some may argue they could have been earlier/ later, longer/ shorter, Brazil has handled it worse.

it’s easy to criticise but the Government could have handled it a lot worse. 

Of course they could have handled it  worse but you don't get credit for not doing as bad as you could have.

They made huge mistakes at the start.

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12 hours ago, eh up nah said:

I will say this, for all Boris's faults, the press are now running the show.

They'll do all they can to get the 21st june release delayed.

Spot on,the last thing we want is to end up like the US with the media and Big Tech pulling the strings.

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12 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Early on I really don’t think they could have handled it any worse. Fair enough on the vaccine front I will give him / the government credit where it’s due. But early days into covid was a complete shambles. That’s not being anti Borris that’s just what it was. 

I wouldn’t go as far as to say they couldn’t have handled it worse but agree, we should have closed our borders earlier, lockdown a week or so earlier, the Cummings fiasco was a farce and the rules were as clear as mud sometimes, I also think the Police and those ruling them have been too soft but since the early mistakes which are always going to happen they have been pretty good. Maybe, we should have closed our borders to India earlier but I haven’t heard of any deaths to the variant yet so maybe the fact that the majority of over 50s have had their vaccination we are in a position to get back to normal and not worry too much about these different variants. 
The U.K. are in a far better position now than most countries.

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48 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

for a start the EU handled it worse.

What is the relevance of this whataboutery?

"Yes I know he's killed 5 in surgery this week through negligence but let's not forget Dr Shipman..."

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56 minutes ago, JohnJames said:

This Twitter thread goes into great detail about the Indian Virus.

At this rate there will be no crowds next season

 

Interesting... so the need to push on with a trade deal with India to try and get some good news about Brexit means Boris wouldn’t put india on the red list.

Lets hope to Betsy that this variant doesn’t curtail the removal of lockdown.

 

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42 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

So the need to push on with a trade deal with India to try and get some good news about Brexit means Boris wouldn’t put india on the red list. Lets hope to Betsy that this variant doesn’t curtail the removal of lockdown.

The usual characters will find some way to throw themselves in front of a train defending it. 

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

Really??

Obviously anti Boris!

yes, mistakes have been made but the vaccine rollout has been handled extremely well, for a start the EU handled it worse. Lockdowns, although some may argue they could have been earlier/ later, longer/ shorter, Brazil has handled it worse.

it’s easy to criticise but the Government could have handled it a lot worse. 

Other than the Vaccines what has he done well? To late in both lockdowns, The PPE fiasco that lined his Tory mates pockets. To slow to react to border closures. And finally what will the Indian fiasco cost the country, not only to late but he gave them nearly a weeks notice, to allow thousands more to pile in. 

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1 hour ago, tommytunstall said:

Other than the Vaccines what has he done well? To late in both lockdowns, The PPE fiasco that lined his Tory mates pockets. To slow to react to border closures. And finally what will the Indian fiasco cost the country, not only to late but he gave them nearly a weeks notice, to allow thousands more to pile in. 

30,000 to be exact like you say apart from the vaccines couldn’t have handled it any worse 

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The thing with the Indian variant is that (unlike the original strain) it kills younger people.  
the MP for Bolton has asked for vaccinations for over 16s to stop the spread. This request has been refused

 
There's absolutely no evidence for this. Just like the gutter press, scaremongering. The most vulnerable people to this disease (and variations thereof) have always been 80+ or vulnerable. The great proportion of these are fully vaccinated. We could have a million cases a day but as long as we don't have hospitalisations or deaths (which is what the vaccine is supposed to prevent) then there isn't a problem.

The government needs to hold their nerve in the face of 'models' which have been proven time and time again to be wrong. Otherwise we'll be forever delaying as there are thousands of variants. We have to get on with our lives now.
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1 hour ago, leedsvaliant said:

There's absolutely no evidence for this. Just like the gutter press, scaremongering. The most vulnerable people to this disease (and variations thereof) have always been 80+ or vulnerable. The great proportion of these are fully vaccinated. We could have a million cases a day but as long as we don't have hospitalisations or deaths (which is what the vaccine is supposed to prevent) then there isn't a problem.

The government needs to hold their nerve in the face of 'models' which have been proven time and time again to be wrong. Otherwise we'll be forever delaying as there are thousands of variants. We have to get on with our lives now.

Surely the most vulnerable are the un-vaccinated ?

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1 hour ago, Fosse69 said:

Surely the most vulnerable are the un-vaccinated ?

It's come out tonight that most of the hospitalizations are people who were entitled to have had the jab, but hadn't had it.   They are putting us all at risk, and our freedoms,  by their selfishness. 

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