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6 minutes ago, Doha said:

It is for this reason I haven't responded to him quoting me earlier so I'm glad you said that. Ditto, let's leave it all for a few days. 

Agreed. Have removed the rest of my post. 

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14 hours ago, AMF said:

I feel very sorry for those who've been permanently engineered into being more risk averse (like AndyRegs) as it will take far longer for them to get any type of resemblance of normality back in life. Its the job of people like me to re-educate them back to normality.

Many people actually had a minutes silence and candle light vigil for Peter Sutcliffe on the 23rd March during the quite bizarre "day of reflection". Get your head around that.

Until we learn to live with the consequences of this virus, rather than trying to learn to live with the virus, the longer it will take to get back to normal. Unfortunately that looks a long way off whilst people won't admit that they're not following the rules and acting normal through fear of social stigma. 

I'll start, I didn't wear a face-mask to pay for petrol in a service station at the weekend. That was after picking up my 80 year old grandparents who I took to my parents house so that 4 generations could enjoy an Easter lunch together (indoors) like normal human beings. The fact that such actions are a CRIME is bonkers. No one, under any circumstances, ever has the right to tell me and my family how, where and when we can interact. To expect another person to act in such unnatural way to satisfy their own sense of fear is inhuman and frankly selfish. 

So basically what you're saying is that laws you disagree with are there to be broken if you so desire.  NOTE TO SELF: Remember to quote that to the judge next time I'm done for speeding. 👍

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It seems we have more covidiots in our midst,in the form of James Maddison,Ayoze Prez,Hamza Choudhury,Harvey Barnes and Wes Morgan.

What's up with these footballers ,do they think that the rules don't apply to them?Brendan Rodgers and Gareth Southgate are not impressed.

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Well after the News headlines put the pressure on, Doris eventually puts India on the Red list. 100,000 entered the Uk from India in Jan-Feb, it is out of control in India, so why did we not act before more untold damage has been done?

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Let the bodies pile up Boris said. Two sources willing to speak under oath about it.

Even the far right Daily Fail rag are giving him a bad name. This is the beginning of the end for Boris.

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On 19/04/2021 at 16:15, tommytunstall said:

Well after the News headlines put the pressure on, Doris eventually puts India on the Red list. 100,000 entered the Uk from India in Jan-Feb, it is out of control in India, so why did we not act before more untold damage has been done?

We’re now towards the end of April 

was India out of control in jan and feb 🤷🏿‍♂️

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1 hour ago, sunny boslem said:

We’re now towards the end of April 

was India out of control in jan and feb 🤷🏿‍♂️

Did not say it was. But Pakistan and Bangladesh went on the list weeks ago, so should India as the surge started. Obviously Doris was hanging on for a trade deal.

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They need to look at the big picture. It is a world problem. Waive the patents and let all countries manufacture the various vaccines, that is the best way of giving aid to the world, and restoring some sense of normality.

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On 27/04/2021 at 03:50, Fosse69 said:

They need to look at the big picture. It is a world problem. Waive the patents and let all countries manufacture the various vaccines, that is the best way of giving aid to the world, and restoring some sense of normality.

Fosse,  The issue is whether there is the capability and availability of "starting materials" now to manufacture the virus in a particular country as some of this stuff is cutting edge science/manufacturing plus the manufacturing has to be done in sterile conditions as when stuff is being injected into humans it has to be what the label says it is and doesn't contain impurities or  unwanted bacterial/fungi etc which could lead to other health issues.

Unfortunately manufacturing vaccines/medicines is not as "simple" as manufacturing a refrigerator or a car.

 

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On 06/04/2021 at 15:29, Fosse69 said:

Hospitals will not be empty of Covid patients, deaths  due to Covid quoted by the Govt are only those within 28 days. 

1,161 in English hospitals as of Saturday who've tested positive for Covid, out of 55,000,000 residents. At least 1/3rd of NHS trusts have zero Covid positive patients. Seems pretty empty to me. 

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44 minutes ago, AMF said:

1,161 in English hospitals as of Saturday who've tested positive for Covid, out of 55,000,000 residents. At least 1/3rd of NHS trusts have zero Covid positive patients. Seems pretty empty to me. 

They should be working hard to catch up with all the delayed operations and treatments. 

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23 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

They should be working hard to catch up with all the delayed operations and treatments. 

Let's hope so. I think the NHS did a good job of continuing the best they could during the winter, but the completely unnecessary hysteria driven cancellations in April, May and June 2020 will have a knock on effect for many years to come. 

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On 29/04/2021 at 22:12, Paul6754 said:

Fosse,  The issue is whether there is the capability and availability of "starting materials" now to manufacture the virus in a particular country as some of this stuff is cutting edge science/manufacturing plus the manufacturing has to be done in sterile conditions as when stuff is being injected into humans it has to be what the label says it is and doesn't contain impurities or  unwanted bacterial/fungi etc which could lead to other health issues.

Unfortunately manufacturing vaccines/medicines is not as "simple" as manufacturing a refrigerator or a car.

 

You miss my point, the patent money could be better spent on producing the vaccine in countries capable of doing so. 

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