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4 hours ago, geosname said:

If the police, MPs, ex party leaders, the PM and his family and the people who made the rules don't understand or follow the rules how the hell can we reasonably expect Joe public to understand or follow them.

I think that's right.

You've got to have a clear, simple message that everyone follows and then hold the line. If you allow a member of the government to break the rules then others will follow. You have to mean what you say, as any parent or teacher will tell you.

The messaging and guidelines have been blurry and very poor of late, usually published by the government about 23.30 at night, half an hour before they come into force. It's no wonder the police or local authorities don't know what's going on.

All these people we have mentioned broke the rules and deserve heavy criticism but as far as I'm aware only Cummings and Jenrick refused to admit to doing anything wrong and have never apologised. The others all have. Johnson has also refused to apologise for them or indeed sack them. That's when the edges started to fray. The Rubicon was crossed with Cummings and we are now where we are.

Sturgeon has condemned her SNP colleague and asked her to resign. The contrast between her leadership and his is stark. 

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If an apology is good enough for some to escape a fine or prosecution then it should be good enough for everyone.

I don't think an apology is anywhere near good enough.

The people who have paid fines should be refunded or the rules enforced for everyone.

If the rules are there to protect people it follows breaking them endangers people.

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51 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Yep.  She has been reported to parliamentary standards, has been publically rebuked by the speaker, suspended by her party and encouraged by the Party Leader to do the right thing and resign as an MP.  She is also facing a police investigation.

Its all a far cry from binning an expert from a press conference because they wouldnt support Cummings, every cabinet member tweeting support and giving interviews in support of Cummings and then getting him to make a public address where they all denied wrong doing and in fact tried to make out that Cummings had actually acting as an outstanding parent.

As usual you are wide of the mark and know nothing, say nothing of value and just blindly suckle on Borris's moobs...  milky milky.

Crikey,'milky,milky',where did you get that from the nursery or the infants?

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16 hours ago, ginge said:

 

 

It is ironic that Boris is putting a lot of the blame for the rise in cases on young people not behaving and has forced baers and restaurants to shut by 10pm. There was no need for a curfew in his student days as he and fellow Bullingden club members (such as Cameron and Osborne) had usually smashed the place up by then and ashed daddy to pay for it.

 

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10 hours ago, Iron Curtain said:

Jesus wept... the missing files were caused because they were using Excel... world beating!!

Not only that, they used An old file format so they could only fit 65,000 rows.

World beating!

Indefensible!! 

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3 of the biggest contracts for PPE in March, after the government had ignored the EU procurement programme were apparently handed to a pest control company(Pestfix), a confectionery wholesaler( Clandeboye) and a shady private fund( Ayanda) owned through a tax haven. 

Suspicious?

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Test and Trace,  cost £8 Billion, took  6 months, and  dependent on a under-powered Excel program.  The future is bright, the World awaits. who elected these clowns?

The good folks of the UK...... now that could be a FACT.

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3 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

Test and Trace,  cost £8 Billion, took  6 months, and  dependent on a under-powered Excel program.  The future is bright, the World awaits. who elected these clowns?

I actually have a more up-to-date version of Excel on my phone that the track and trace mob were using!

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