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I am a law abiding citizen. I have never even had a parking ticket and I am in my 60th year. I accept that the Government has had a very difficult job but they have made a complete horlicks of it. The

If football matches here had to be played behind closed doors,  Sjoke would still count 23000 attendance. 

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31 minutes ago, Joe B said:

I've always tried to defend her/BBC, but Laura Kuenssberg's immediate 'rebuttal' of the claims, after taking such delight in the Ferguson drama (wow, what a great story!) has tipped me over the edge.

I don't think she does it maliciously/through active bias, I think she's just so entrenched in Westminster/keen to keep good relations with this obviously traditional media-averse executive that she is willing to peddle party lines, or doesn't realise how bad it looks at times. Its a real shame.

Within seconds of it breaking, she's scrambling to tell everyone how very legal and OK it was, according to her sources.

Unfortunately, it appear some journalists view their job as to repeat what they've been told by politicians, their role reduced to disseminators of public broadcasts, and not to question/investigate it.

She has already been found guilty of bias and breaking Impartiality rules at the bbc.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/18/bbc-trust-says-laura-kuenssberg-report-on-jeremy-corbyn-was-inaccurate-labour

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25 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

This... a thousand times this.

People on here should be made to read this over and over and over again.

Its embarrassing to see some of the flippant, high horse, biased rubbish spouted in here!

Very embarrassing indeed, gone in to overdrive because it is Cummings!. Think you will find it is only RB defending him and hundreds of comments from same old. Yes, embarrassing, agree.

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pinched from someone else’s twitter... but sums it up nicely.

It’s so low, even for this government, to now suggest people could have seen loved ones for a last time & they needn’t have died alone if their family had simply used their own discretion to interpret the rules. Purely because it now suits their own narrative

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Think of all the people who couldn't visit dying loved ones/isolated elderly relatives as they stuck the the government guidelines.

Its a scandal.

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

Very embarrassing indeed, gone in to overdrive because it is Cummings!. Think you will find it is only RB defending him and hundreds of comments from same old. Yes, embarrassing, agree.

RB is an embarrassing fanatic, how can you condone what this guy has done, RB is an embarrassment to the site.

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Johnson should dismiss Cummins immediately, he should show leadership and be decisive.

What is it that these political characters that find the need to have a "Wing man" just think of the lives lost and damage Campbell did when he "Advised" Blair.

All those seeking political advantage should remember both sides of the political divide are are as bad as each other.

The Tories swept to power because the electorate feared a socialist rabble run by Corbyn Abbott and Watson they hold the baton and it seems they are now dropping it, not because of their handling of covid-19 because it's easy to criticise from the side lines but because of it's transparency and it's dismissive high handed attitude to  the British public.

 

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Interesting new exclusive from the Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

"Devastating new claims have emerged that Dominic Cummings further breached the lockdown rules, as Downing Street came under sustained pressure to fire the prime minister’s most senior adviser.

The new testimony suggests Cummings left the home where he was staying in Durham to visit a town 30 miles away...

The new accounts also raise fresh questions about his insistence that the initial 264-mile trip to Durham was justified.

 

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If true, the government look silly for having so aggressively defended him.

Not that it'll matter to a lot of people, mind; they decided their view on this when they learned whether the man in question was Conservative or not.

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6 minutes ago, robf said:

Interesting new exclusive from the Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

"Devastating new claims have emerged that Dominic Cummings further breached the lockdown rules, as Downing Street came under sustained pressure to fire the prime minister’s most senior adviser.

The new testimony suggests Cummings left the home where he was staying in Durham to visit a town 30 miles away...

The new accounts also raise fresh questions about his insistence that the initial 264-mile trip to Durham was justified.

 

All the conservative party MPs who were given pre-prepared lines to tweet this morning will be very upset. Including the one masquerading as a competent, just attorney general who might have today prejudiced a criminal investigation, by tweet. Brilliant. 

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Beautifully played the media, by the way, to let that shower in government publicly hang themselves before delivering the follow up knockout punch. 

Auf Wiedersehen, uncle Fester. 

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2 hours ago, Joe B said:

Deeply disconcerting that I could guess the inviduals who would be defending Cummings before I opened the thread.

Further proof that it is now no longer judging each issue on its own merit, but also taking into account whether the individual involved is on your 'team' or not.

Its become like supporting a football club.

 

2 hours ago, Doha said:

That's exactly what it is. 

We're going to be stood outside VP watching a funeral cortege go past next week, while Regal Begal treats Napoleon Cummings' flouting of the law driving hundreds of miles while +ve for the virus to two pensioners, with mirth. ("Probably not going to get a knighthood for his sterling work now.)

I just feel embarrassed for them. 

If it's open and shut case why has there been no police action?

He had a legitimate excuse. 

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