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23 minutes ago, Houston Valiant said:

Let’s begin by shooting Klopp. 

Irrelevant but it made me laugh regardless!

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20 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

As far as my limited knowledge goes, vaccines prevent or reduce the effects of a disease, but the medicines used to treat the lung etc complications of corona will be in far greater demand than usual, not a panic but simple arithmetic.

From very limited knowledge....... vaccines help the immune system to cope with the war that ensues when a virus is contracted...... usually by introducing a diluted strain of the virus, the immune system learns how to deal with it for when the big guns arrive..... the immune system learns how to fight it before it has a chance to take over.

It's said no matter how many cold/flue viruses you contract in your life you never get the same one twice.... each is a mutation or strain.

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55 minutes ago, geosname said:

From very limited knowledge....... vaccines help the immune system to cope with the war that ensues when a virus is contracted...... usually by introducing a diluted strain of the virus, the immune system learns how to deal with it for when the big guns arrive..... the immune system learns how to fight it before it has a chance to take over.

It's said no matter how many cold/flue viruses you contract in your life you never get the same one twice.... each is a mutation or strain.

Presumably the same will happen with Corona, and  eventually vaccines will be available to  people as with annual flu jabs

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1 hour ago, JohnJames said:

Although if you’re looking for a medium to long term investment. Get yourself a Stocks and Shares ISA. Best time to buy is when the market is falling. It won’t go bust as thats the end of the world. Risk what you can afford to lose and a few years you’ll have made a fair profit.

 

Thanks Jordan Belfort

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1 hour ago, JohnJames said:

Gatherings greater than 500 people banned from next week.  Cobra have decided

Have they???  Not what the PM has just said. 

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11 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Have they???  Not what the PM has just said. 

No they haven banned going to events ( yet ) 

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29 minutes ago, geosname said:

From very limited knowledge....... vaccines help the immune system to cope with the war that ensues when a virus is contracted...... usually by introducing a diluted strain of the virus, the immune system learns how to deal with it for when the big guns arrive..... the immune system learns how to fight it before it has a chance to take over.

It's said no matter how many cold/flue viruses you contract in your life you never get the same one twice.... each is a mutation or strain.

Geo,. A vaccine is a modified or killed form of a microorganism/virus that doesn't go on to cause the full blown disease. When the vaccine is injected into a human (or animal)  the immune system produces antibodies to the virus, antibody production is one of the first steps of the immune system that leads to a full blown immune response and the eventual suppression or elimination  of the disease in that person.

Once antibodies are produced to a virus they remain in the body, if the virus attacks for a 2nd time the immune system is primed with the antibodies and responds faster and lesser or  no disease occurs.

A possible treatment to halt the spread of/treatment for the coronavirus is to take plasma/serum from from people who have recovered from the disease (this plasma/serum contains antibodies to the coronavirus) and inject/transfuse it into people who don't have or have just contracted the disease but the logistics to do this world wide would be immense. Apparently this was done during the Spanish Flu Pandemic in the early 20th century.

 

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1 hour ago, JohnJames said:

Gatherings greater than 500 people banned from next week.  Cobra have decided

Misinformation, please follow the proper advice. 

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2 hours ago, JohnJames said:

Gatherings greater than 500 people banned from next week.  Cobra have decided

No they haven't but this rumour has been doing the rounds since about 3pm.  It's good example of how people just pass on any old <ovf censored> without checking it first and a good reason why it would be a good move to temporarily shut down social media to stop the spread of misinformation.

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2 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

No they haven't but this rumour has been doing the rounds since about 3pm.  It's good example of how people just pass on any old <ovf censored> without checking it first and a good reason why it would be a good move to temporarily shut down social media to stop the spread of misinformation.

From Monday in Scotland crowds limited to 500, does not apply in Scotia Road.

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2 hours ago, JohnJames said:

Gatherings greater than 500 people banned from next week.  Cobra have decided

They the same brewers who make Corona beer?

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3 minutes ago, Valiant62 said:

Up to date rationale pragmatic advice from two trustworthy scientists separated only by a dipstick. It’s a long watch but says where we’re up to and measures that are likely to be introduced at the right time in the future....https://youtu.be/xRadMzCKnCU

 

Good to see that some of the Tories have decided we haven't actually had enough of experts after all!

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6 hours ago, TylerB said:

It's time to take firm action. Put 80% of the entire nation on lockdown for one month. Put the army on the streets. If you don't obey orders and and don't want the follow the rules then you run the risk of being shot. But that's on you. Anyone that leaves the country during this period has a one way ticket. Economies can recover, corpses cant. A few weeks is an inconvenience but it's so much better than a life sentence.

Thank <ovf censored> you weren’t around during the blitz! 

I imagine your panty wetting wouldn’t have gone down very well.

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2 hours ago, WV said:

Thanks Jordan Belfort

 

? It's perfectly valid advice. Except don't buy now, buy in 2/3 weeks when the city has lost another 10%. This will eventually be a V shaped economic recovery and in an ISA your gains are CGT exempt up to £20,000 pa and pension contribution income tax exempt up to £40,000 pa. Any adult with a functioning brain should know how their savings incentives/state or private pensions work. 

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3 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

Geo,. A vaccine is a modified or killed form of a microorganism/virus that doesn't go on to cause the full blown disease. When the vaccine is injected into a human (or animal)  the immune system produces antibodies to the virus, antibody production is one of the first steps of the immune system that leads to a full blown immune response and the eventual suppression or elimination  of the disease in that person.

Once antibodies are produced to a virus they remain in the body, if the virus attacks for a 2nd time the immune system is primed with the antibodies and responds faster and lesser or  no disease occurs.

A possible treatment to halt the spread of/treatment for the coronavirus is to take plasma/serum from from people who have recovered from the disease (this plasma/serum contains antibodies to the coronavirus) and inject/transfuse it into people who don't have or have just contracted the disease but the logistics to do this world wide would be immense. Apparently this was done during the Spanish Flu Pandemic in the early 20th century.

 

Apologies immediately for going off tack, but this subject I find quite fascinating,

Quite a number of years ago (about 15 ish), I watched a TV programme about an American gay guy who had dated several other gays who he later found out were all HIV+. 

He then thought that he should go and get tested for the virus himself because of the sheer number of times he had unprotected sex with these numerous HIV+ blokes.

To his amazement, he tested negative and because of this the scientists became aware of him. These scientists then took several samples of his blood and tried to infect it with HIV. All attempts failed. His blood was still negative.

So the boffins thought that they had stumbled, completely by accident, on the holy grail to finding a vaccine against HIV. All they had to do was to analyse these blood samples and find out how it destroyed the virus and “hey ho” they had a cure.

Wrong ! None of the greatest scientists in this complex field could figure out how this could have had happened ! 

I don’t know whether this helped towards today’s advancement in treatment for this terrible disease, but I find this story incredible !

Isn’t science fascinating !

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