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On 23/08/2020 at 10:26, Nofinikea said:

Where have you got the 10 times more migrants from?  Are migrants terrorists or asylum seekers?  About of quater?  Again where is this figure from?  

I'm not too sure if they are terrorists or asylum seekers but the silence around the death of Jacob Billington in Birmingham s deafening?

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2 hours ago, Iron Curtain said:

4 or 5 posts of nonsense.... none of which address the point.

Team Brexit have been show up as using lies to push their agenda.

That's what we have been saying all along.. and have been mocked from the "We are cleverer than you because you don't get it" gang.... turns out you were wrong.

All the faux outrage and shouty "they should thank us" rubbish just proves to me that team Brexit have been made to look daft over the last few days and have no recourse... "who cares".... brilliant.

The democracy point is so loony that its not worth diving into... if your point is that we had the vote so now we have to live with it... that's fine.

Our point is that the vote was built on lies and fooling people into believing things that just were not true. That's been proven over the last few days. What a wonderful version of democracy that is!!

 

 

You don’t get it do you?

 

All politicians lie, that’s what they do. You can keep crying about it but it ain’t ever going to change.

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2 hours ago, For Us All said:

I'm not too sure if they are terrorists or asylum seekers but the silence around the death of Jacob Billington in Birmingham s deafening?

Well it’s been all over the news and you’ve just mentioned it so I assume you’ve gone deaf. 

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47 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

You don’t get it do you?

 

All politicians lie, that’s what they do. You can keep crying about it but it ain’t ever going to change.

So final confirmation from you that the referendum was won by the better liars. We’ve been telling you this for a while. 

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8 minutes ago, Beamish said:

One of the most irritating defences of Johnson's lies ----- 'all politicians lie' so that makes it all OK 

Never said it’s OK but it makes me laugh when remainers moan about lies when they were equally if not worse, just like the election and any election beforehand. 
 

People voted to leave (twice), nothing to do with what our deal was supposed to be.

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4 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

So final confirmation from you that the referendum was won by the better liars. We’ve been telling you this for a while. 

No you haven’t. All I’ve heard is moaning about the lies from Boris etc. No admission to the lies from the remain campaign. Anyway, doesn’t matter because the vote has been cast and we have left (kind of), next step is to leave with no deal so doesn’t really matter what deal was supposed to be on the table.

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6 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

No you haven’t. All I’ve heard is moaning about the lies from Boris etc. No admission to the lies from the remain campaign. Anyway, doesn’t matter because the vote has been cast and we have left (kind of), next step is to leave with no deal so doesn’t really matter what deal was supposed to be on the table.

With a lying Prime Minister flaunting respect for law we lose what little respect we had left in the world. Just wait for the country to realise the con trick that has been played on them.

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24 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

People voted to leave (twice), nothing to do with what our deal was supposed to be.

Keep telling yourself that Phil... one day you may even start to believe it.

You have made your position clear... you are more than happy for the government to lie to you, make things up to influence you into feeling comfortable to push through their own agenda... Lets hope the next one isn't something you are against. The precedent is set now in our democracy, they don't need to tell the truth... you have openly admitted they don't care.

And team Remain gets accused of being undemocratic.  hahahahaha

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24 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

No you haven’t. All I’ve heard is moaning about the lies from Boris etc. No admission to the lies from the remain campaign. Anyway, doesn’t matter because the vote has been cast and we have left (kind of), next step is to leave with no deal so doesn’t really matter what deal was supposed to be on the table.

Yes we have.

Looks like Boris tactics are rubbing off on his fans... just lie and hope it doesn't catch up with you.

 

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

No you haven’t. All I’ve heard is moaning about the lies from Boris etc. No admission to the lies from the remain campaign. Anyway, doesn’t matter because the vote has been cast and we have left (kind of), next step is to leave with no deal so doesn’t really matter what deal was supposed to be on the table.

Well Boris is a bigger liar than Tom Pepper so it’s hardly surprising you’ve heard a lot about him. 

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

 

People voted to leave (twice), nothing to do with what our deal was supposed to be.

So now you're saying people voted to leave without knowing what the deal was going to be?  If a remainer had said that you'd have shot them down in flames.

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3 hours ago, philpvfc said:

Never said it’s OK but it makes me laugh when remainers moan about lies when they were equally if not worse, just like the election and any election beforehand. 
 

People voted to leave (twice), nothing to do with what our deal was supposed to be.

Well that's clearly not true.

Not going to go over old ground about 2016, it's been done to death.

Are you suggesting that the 2019 election was based on people voting Conservative not for the Deal that was central to Johnson's election promise, but instead an abstract, unspoken concept of leaving that could be filled in later? Because that's just nuts.

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4 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

So final confirmation from you that the referendum was won by the better liars. We’ve been telling you this for a while. 

The referendum and elections are won by telling the public what they think they want to hear. 

Basically offering the voters what they think they want and telling them how bad it will be if they vote the other way.

It suggests,  elections especially, are not won by the best liars but by who will do the least amount of damage in the allotted time.

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