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54 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Really?  Show me where remainers have defended terrorists coming to the UK?

Unless you are insinuating that the people trying to cross the channel are terrorists...  is that it?

Are you not a remainer?

Did you not say we should welcome anybody with free movement?

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6 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

Just wondered as it seems quite ironic that brexiteers are defending Yaxleys right to flee to an EU country...

It just seems a bit hypocritical.

Strange statement.

Leaving country of origin and entering another legally would be supported by everyone, wouldn't it?

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12 hours ago, Iron Curtain said:

 

I watched a video of a racist bloke getting knocked out on the tube the other day.

I have also seen horrible videos of innocent bystanders getting king hit by drunks.

I felt a lot more sorry for one than the other. 

Part of the oddity is that people want to stop racism but not the sale of alcohol. 

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On 21/08/2020 at 23:04, Jacko51 said:

But granting asylum is not automatic.  There are hoops to jump through and it can take ages.  People have a right to apply for asylum.  The government is not required to grant that asylum unless they are satisfied that the claim is genuine.

Spot on,that's one of the reasons people are trying to get into the UK,because other countries like France refuse them asylum.That's what happened to the young man that tragically died.

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15 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Are they?  How do you know this?

About a quarter of terrorist attacks on mainland Britain have come from asylum seekers, the vast majority have entered the country before claiming asylum, even the latest terrorist attack in Reading came from an asylum seeker.

By your reckoning, we should allow free movement of anyone which would bring at leat 10 times more migrants and if given free movement would bring many many more terrorists in to the U.K. sell that idea to all those affected by what has happened in the past and will happen in the future.

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13 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Yes, Yaxley is entitled to leave the UK and go to Spain freely, at lease for now.  The irony is, those jumping to his defence voted for that to not be the case anymore.  There is a very good chance that Yaxley himself voted to end that freedom of movement too...

So Geo, why is that strange?  Its an incredibly easy concept to grasp, it was from the first post you called strange too.

For a start, no one has leapt to his defence, secondly, it is fake news that he is claiming asylum, thirdly nobody has said anyone, asylum seekers or Robinson should not be able to move to another country if done through the proper channels.

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14 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

we're going round in circles here, so can you prove they are not?

He’s avoiding the questions I asked, he cannot defend his quote that he believes everyone should be granted free movement yet one person who he dislikes is accused of moving abroad he hits out at!

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57 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Spot on,that's one of the reasons people are trying to get into the UK,because other countries like France refuse them asylum.

Shall we stick to the facts? Or continue with this nonsense?

France and "other countries" do not refuse asylum seekers. Last year France took around 130,000 to the UK's 44,000. How on earth does that prove that France refuses asylum seekers? They often take 3-4 times the numbers we take.

We come out at about 15th/28 EU countries in terms of how many we take here per 10,000 population. Hardly an invasion. 6% only of total immigration into the UK.

Germany, Spain, Greece and France take around 75% of the total.

So how you can say that France and other countries don't take them is a complete mystery to me.

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1 hour ago, For Us All said:

Spot on,that's one of the reasons people are trying to get into the UK,because other countries like France refuse them asylum.That's what happened to the young man that tragically died.

You’ve just totally given up now haven’t you and decided to just make things up to suit your argument. 

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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:

About a quarter of terrorist attacks on mainland Britain have come from asylum seekers, the vast majority have entered the country before claiming asylum, even the latest terrorist attack in Reading came from an asylum seeker.

 

It's interesting that the Reading attack, where three men were killed by a bloke who had mental health issues, is regarded as terrorism yet Harold Shipman murders in excess of 100 and that isn't.  There are hundreds of knife attacks and murders in this country which are not considered terrorism.  Is it only terrorism if the bloke committing the crime has a funny name?

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19 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

It's interesting that the Reading attack, where three men were killed by a bloke who had mental health issues, is regarded as terrorism yet Harold Shipman murders in excess of 100 and that isn't.  There are hundreds of knife attacks and murders in this country which are not considered terrorism.  Is it only terrorism if the bloke committing the crime has a funny name?

If it’s classed as a racist attack it is more often a terrorist attack. Most terrorists have some sort of mental issues and if you think Shipman was a terrorist you can think that, I’d disagree though. 

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3 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

If it’s classed as a racist attack it is more often a terrorist attack. Most terrorists have some sort of mental issues and if you think Shipman was a terrorist you can think that, I’d disagree though. 

I didn't say Shipman was a terrorist. 

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