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1 hour ago, geosname said:

I would suggest the reason KFC and others ship meat from Thailand is because it's cheaper than other places.

Correct, so goes against the argument that the EU are cheaper but if cost isn’t the leading reason to buy then surely buying British is an option.

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2 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Correct, so goes against the argument that the EU are cheaper but if cost isn’t the leading reason to buy then surely buying British is an option.

The problem with that argument is that the UK is not geared up for cheap.

The average farm workers salary in Thailand is approximately 400bht (£10) per day in season. I doubt workers in the UK would be ok with that.

The idea of buying British is great...... until someone imports and sells 50% cheaper.

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5 minutes ago, NellyTheValiant said:

Yeah the sooner we get rid of that human rights stuff the better......

Correct, set our own rules and not be dictated to by rules only signed up to by countries without a history of none human rights. Complete waste of time and keeps our hands tied on issues like asylum seekers.

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3 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Correct, set our own rules and not be dictated to by rules only signed up to by countries without a history of none human rights. Complete waste of time and keeps our hands tied on issues like asylum seekers.

How were/are our hands tied? We did not take part in the Schengen area agreement before brexit therefore took in far less asylum seekers than other EU countries.

What human rights do you disagree with? 

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7 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Correct, set our own rules and not be dictated to by rules only signed up to by countries without a history of none human rights. Complete waste of time and keeps our hands tied on issues like asylum seekers.

How can we have our own rules on being humans without agreeing them with other countries? 

The Human Rights Act 1998 brought the European Convention on Human Rights into UK law. The Act “brought rights home” so that Convention rights are enforced by the UK courts (to a large extent), rather than so many cases having to be taken to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg: Enforcement of European Convention and HRA 1998

Nothing to do with the EU, we supply judges to the Court.

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21 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

How can we have our own rules on being humans without agreeing them with other countries? 

The Human Rights Act 1998 brought the European Convention on Human Rights into UK law. The Act “brought rights home” so that Convention rights are enforced by the UK courts (to a large extent), rather than so many cases having to be taken to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg: Enforcement of European Convention and HRA 1998

Nothing to do with the EU, we supply judges to the Court.

I believe all countries signed up to EU law signed the agreement in 2009, and there was some fundamental changes meaning we could not send anyone back to a safe country if they claim asylum, the Strasbourg agreement was the original agreement we were signed up to but the EU agreement went even further which kind of made a mockery of those countries not signed to the Shengen.

 

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5 hours ago, philpvfc said:

We need to get out of the EU human rights act….hopefully we will now we have left the EU. 
 

but you already knew that!

What on earth are you talking about?  There is no such thing as the EU Human Rights Act.

I suspect you are thinking of the European Convention on Human Rights which is nothing to do with the EU.

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50 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

I believe all countries signed up to EU law signed the agreement in 2009, and there was some fundamental changes meaning we could not send anyone back to a safe country if they claim asylum, the Strasbourg agreement was the original agreement we were signed up to but the EU agreement went even further which kind of made a mockery of those countries not signed to the Shengen.

 

EUR-LEX.EUROPA.EU

 

Based on the same convention as the  British act.

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11 hours ago, philpvfc said:

Correct, so goes against the argument that the EU are cheaper but if cost isn’t the leading reason to buy then surely buying British is an option.

According to KFC all original recipe and on the bone chicken is sourced in the UK and Ireland. 

It's on their website. 

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10 hours ago, philpvfc said:

The EU human rights act has nothing to do with schengen. I disagree with the bureaucracy of the act and the processes we have to follow. We should be able to set our own rules which should include a faster and fairer process. 

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15 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

"We buy plenty from China because it is cheaper. KFC supplies the U.K. with meat from Thailand and Brazil and that was the same when we were in the EU. "

And now, as the crisis worsens, we'll stop buying as much from our neighbours and actively try to buy more from the country that is furthest away from us. That's clever. Nice one.

 

52 minutes ago, WV said:

According to KFC all original recipe and on the bone chicken is sourced in the UK and Ireland. 

It's on their website. 

Can both be correct? 

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19 hours ago, philpvfc said:

We buy plenty from China because it is cheaper. KFC supplies the U.K. with meat from Thailand and Brazil and that was the same when we were in the EU. 

I see that the EU have got their own problems at the moment with Germany,France and Spain experiencing a shortage of 400,000 HGV drivers.

Must be down to Brexit!!! 😀

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