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22 minutes ago, For Us All said:

We done IC,a fine example of how to copy and paste.😉It's a pity the Remain side didn't promote this side of the argument in 2016 instead of focusing on a red bus and Russian collusion.They might have won?

Stating the obvious against Murdock`s propaganda ?

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18 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

You want control over our borders, got it. 

Soooo you don’t want a border? And so you want an open border with the EU. Youre going to have to explain this one? Immigration from Ireland to the uk was second highest in the uk. I thought we wanted to stop that?

Because you’ve just made that up. In fact we had more control over European policy than most countries in it.

It’s a shame you’ve given up your own thought processes to such a grifter. 

Our government didn’t want a border and we didn’t have to have one not me I ain’t that botheread Ireland is part of us In my opinion 

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1 hour ago, Iron Curtain said:

Stolen from a website, but does a good job of listing a few out.

 

Membership of the world’s largest trading bloc with over 500 million consumers, representing 23% of global GDP

The UK has greater global influence as a member of the EU

The EU provides a counterweight to the global power of the US, Russia and China

Tariff-free trade within the EU

The abolition of non-tariff barriers (quotas, subsidies, administrative rules etc.) among members

The EU accounts for 44% of all UK exports of goods and services

The EU accounts for 53% of all UK imports of goods and services

Cheaper food and alcohol imports from continental Europe

As a member of the EU the UK maintains a say in the shaping of the rules governing its trade with its European partners

3.1 million jobs in the UK are directly linked to exports to the EU

Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers)

Free movement of labour has helped address shortages of unskilled workers (fruit picking, catering)

The Single Market has brought the best continental footballers to the Premier League

The EU accounts for 47% of the UK’s stock of inward Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), worth over $1.2 trillion

Access to the EU Single Market has helped attract investment into the UK from outside the EU

No paperwork or customs for UK exports throughout the single market

Price transparency and removal of commissions on currency transactions across the Eurozone

FDI into the UK has effectively doubled since the creation of the EU Single Market

The UK’s net contribution to the EU budget is around €7.3bn, or 0.4% of GDP (less than an eighth of the UK’s defence spending)

No time consuming border checks for travellers (apart from in the UK)

The City of London, as a global financial hub, has acted as a bridge between foreign business and the EU

British banks and insurance companies have been able to operate freely across the EU

Cornwall receives up to £750 million per year from the EU Social Fund (ESF)

Structural funding for areas of the UK hit by industrial decline (South Wales, Yorkshire)

Support for rural areas under the European Agricultural Fund for Regional Development (EAFRD)

EU funding for infrastructure projects in the UK including £122 million for the “Midlands engine” project

Financial support from the EU for over 3,000 small and medium enterprises (SMEs) in the UK

EU funding for the British film industry

EU funding for British theatre, music and dance

EU funding for British sport, including football apprenticeships, tennis and rugby league

Glasgow (1990) and Liverpool (2008) benefitted from being European capitals of culture, stimulating their local economies

EU competition laws protect consumers by combatting monopolistic business practices

Strict controls on the operations of Multinational Corporations (MNCs) in the EU

Human Rights protected under the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights

The death penalty can never be reintroduced as it is incompatible with EU membership

Minority languages such as Welsh and Irish are recognized and protected under EU law

The right to reside in any EU member state

The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions

The mutual recognition of professional qualifications has facilitated the free movement of engineers, teachers and doctors across the EU

The mutual recognition of educational diplomas

The Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR) has standardized assessment of language proficiency across the EU

The freedom to study in 28 countries (many EU universities teach courses in English and charge lower fees than in the UK)

The Erasmus programme of university exchanges (benefitting 16000 UK students a year)

The freedom to set up a business in 28 countries

The ability to retire in any member state

Pension transferability

The right to vote in local and European Parliamentary elections if resident in any member state

EU laws making it easier for British people to buy property on the continent

The right to receive emergency healthcare in any member state (EHIC card)

Consular protection from any EU embassy outside the EU

The EU has played a leading role in combatting global warming (Paris 2015 climate change conference)

Common EU greenhouse gas emissions targets (19% reduction from 1990 to 2015)

Improvements in air quality (significant reductions in sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxides) as a result of EU legislation

Reductions in sewage emissions

Improvements in the quality of beaches and bathing water

EU standards on the quality of drinking water

Restrictions on landfill dumping

EU targets for recycling

Common EU regulations on the transportation and disposal of toxic waste

The implementation of EU policies to reduce noise pollution in urban areas

EU policies have stimulated offshore wind farms

Strict safety standards for cars, buses and trucks

Protection of endangered species and habitats (EU Natura 2000 network)

Strict ban on animal testing in the cosmetics industry

Membership of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) which monitors the quality and safety of medicines (until recently located in London)

13% of EU budget earmarked for scientific research and innovation

The UK receives £730 million a year in EU funding for research

EU funding for UK universities

Cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy as a member of Euratom

Minimum paid annual leave and time off work (Working Time Directive)

Equal pay between men and women enshrined in European law since 1957

The right to work no more than 48 hours a week without paid overtime

Minimum guaranteed maternity leave of 14 weeks for pregnant women

Rights to a minimum 18 weeks of parental leave after child birth

EU anti-discrimination laws governing age, religion and sexual orientation

EU rules governing health and safety at work

The rights to collective bargaining and trade union membership are enshrined in EU employment law

The UK enjoys an opt out from the single currency and maintains full control of its borders as a non-member of the Schengen area

Since 1985 the UK has received a budget rebate equivalent to 66% of its net contribution to the EU budget

EU cross-country coordination offers greater protection from terrorists, pedophiles, people traffickers and cyber-crime

The European common arrest warrant

Europe-wide patent and copyright protection

EU consumer protection laws concerning transparency and product guarantees of quality and safety

Improved food labeling

A ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives

Cheaper air travel due to EU competition laws

Common EU air passenger rights

Deregulation of the European energy market has increased consumer choice and lowered prices

Mutual recognition of the common European driving license

The introduction of the European pet passport

The abolition of mobile telephone roaming charges

The EU acts as a guarantor of the Irish Good Friday Agreement

A frictionless Irish border

The EU acts as a guarantor of the special status of Gibraltar

The EU helped support and maintain democracy in Spain, Portugal and Greece from the 1970s and these countries have become major destinations for British tourists

EU membership has helped facilitate intercultural dialogue

But apart from that? 😂

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44 minutes ago, sunny boslem said:

We got no facts 

I mean...I agree, but I’m surprised you’re actually typing this out. 

42 minutes ago, sunny boslem said:

Our government didn’t want a border and we didn’t have to have one not me I ain’t that botheread Ireland is part of us In my opinion 

You wanted to control our border with the EU but you also didn’t want a border with the EU? You do know Ireland is in the EU? 

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3 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

I mean...I agree, but I’m surprised you’re actually typing this out. 

You wanted to control our border with the EU but you also didn’t want a border with the EU? You do know Ireland is in the EU? 

Yes of course I know 

we didn’t need a hard border with them u know it I know it boris knows it and the EU know it 

they insisted to make things awkward for us 

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23 minutes ago, sunny boslem said:

Yes of course I know 

we didn’t need a hard border with them u know it I know it boris knows it and the EU know it 

they insisted to make things awkward for us 

It’s becoming clear you didn’t know.

you’re suggesting that We should pick and choose where we want a border a border with the eu and where we dont. And if they dont give us exactly what we want, then its the EU being meanies. 

Remember when the two main criticisms were that brexit voters didn’t know what they voted for and they wanted their cake and eat it, and expected the EU to give us everything we wanted. And here we are. 

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