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1 hour ago, Fosse69 said:

We are the wrong side of the Atlantic for a Canada deal.  Non-members cannot expect the privileges of members. Johnson does not seem to grasp it.

Neither do the French,  Spanish etc who want the same fishing access to a none member state as they had with a member state.

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There's a difference between not accepting the result and not agreeing with the result.  I accepted it would happen but that doesn't make me think it's the right thing to do.  The Brexiteers have been

Grammar.

I hope Brexit is everything that has been promised.  I am long enough in the tooth to realise that the people making those promises have made a career from telling lies without shame. The result

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Neither do the French,  Spanish etc who want the same fishing access to a none member state as they had with a member state.
They say, they did not vote for Brexit why should they give up their fishing.

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20 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
32 minutes ago, geosname said:
Neither do the French,  Spanish etc who want the same fishing access to a none member state as they had with a member state.

They say, they did not vote for Brexit why should they give up their fishing.

It's not their fishing any more though and the German goverment has told Macron to back down from blocking a deal on fishing.It seems that the French haven't yet come to terms with the fact that the UK will become an independent coastal state.

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1 hour ago, Fosse69 said:
1 hour ago, geosname said:
Neither do the French,  Spanish etc who want the same fishing access to a none member state as they had with a member state.

They say, they did not vote for Brexit why should they give up their fishing.

They don't have to give up their fishing, they just have to fish in their own pond..... with their own tariffs. 

We didn't vote to join the EU..... but we voted to leave it..... if they don't want a deal they still don't get to fish.... their choice.

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1 hour ago, geosname said:

They don't have to give up their fishing, they just have to fish in their own pond..... with their own tariffs. 

We didn't vote to join the EU..... but we voted to leave it..... if they don't want a deal they still don't get to fish.... their choice.

But their fishermen control the  access to Calais port. The Dutch have rights to fish from Charles 2. 

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13 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

But their fishermen control the  access to Calais port. The Dutch have rights to fish from Charles 2. 

So when we finally leave we can fish their waters too.

If they stop goods going in they stop goods going out too.

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The UK sold the vast majority of its fishing rights to Spanish and Dutch companies. The overwhelming majority of which is sold to the EU because we don’t want it.

its not about Fish it’s about No deal and making billions for Johnson’s mates by shorting the pound.

we will also lose the vast majority of our car industry. So well done all those who swallowed the Tories <ovf censored> and voted for them

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3 hours ago, JohnJames said:

The UK sold the vast majority of its fishing rights to Spanish and Dutch companies. The overwhelming majority of which is sold to the EU because we don’t want it.

its not about Fish it’s about No deal and making billions for Johnson’s mates by shorting the pound.

we will also lose the vast majority of our car industry. So well done all those who swallowed the Tories <ovf censored> and voted for them

So why are the French upset?

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On 17/10/2020 at 10:30, For Us All said:

The remainer clique in meltdown over us delivering on the largest democratic mandate in our history.

If the powers that be had decided to put 'Leave with a deal' on the ballot paper remainers might have a case. 

Since when is it undemocratic to laugh at brexiters? 

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