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Bizarre 'us poor players' whinge in the Sentinel from Tom this evening, stating that it's 'not fair' to criticise the players for losing at Morecambe, whilst in the same article admitting 'we weren't brilliant' and 'should have been better'! 

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10 minutes ago, philmpv said:

Bizarre 'us poor players' whinge in the Sentinel from Tom this evening, stating that it's 'not fair' to criticise the players for losing at Morecambe, whilst in the same article admitting 'we weren't brilliant' and 'should have been better'! 

Probably feels the needs to explain some of the reasons about why it’s not as simple as turning up, playing whilst the opposition rollover and have their bellies ticked as we win every week. Which is exactly what some of our fans seem to think should happen at every game. The abuse some of them were getting even before they scored was way over the top. 

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17 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

Probably feels the needs to explain some of the reasons about why it’s not as simple as turning up, playing whilst the opposition rollover and have their bellies ticked as we win every week. Which is exactly what some of our fans seem to think should happen at every game. The abuse some of them were getting even before they scored was way over the top. 

I was unable to go due to work but went to Stevenage.

The last line of your post interests me, i have no reason to doubt any of what you say as like i say i wasn't there. But are you saying in the 6 minutes prior to Morecambe opening the scoring our own fans were giving the players grief? 

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24 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

Probably feels the needs to explain some of the reasons about why it’s not as simple as turning up, playing whilst the opposition rollover and have their bellies ticked as we win every week. Which is exactly what some of our fans seem to think should happen at every game. The abuse some of them were getting even before they scored was way over the top. 

Yes but some of his comments were laughable. I think 'we weren't brilliant' is putting it mildly!

"We had the wind against us", "one goal was an own goal and the other 'looked' offside". He then puts the all important caveat in 'no excuses'. You've just made three.

Some fans at games are bad for stick though, I agree; a group at Mansfield gave Amoo vile abuse for an hour before he set up Smith's goal.

I think fans just expected more battle and we looked profoundly off the pace for an hour against a team with 4 wins, and led to disappointment. I don't think anyone has properly 'slated' the players, simply pointed out Tuesday wasn't very good.

 

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2 hours ago, darren1810 said:

I was unable to go due to work but went to Stevenage.

The last line of your post interests me, i have no reason to doubt any of what you say as like i say i wasn't there. But are you saying in the 6 minutes prior to Morecambe opening the scoring our own fans were giving the players grief? 

100% they were giving them stick as soon as we started trying to play from the back (because that’s what we were restricted to), Joyce and Legge especially were getting it. Talk about impatient. 

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59 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

100% they were giving them stick as soon as we started trying to play from the back (because that’s what we were restricted to), Joyce and Legge especially were getting it. Talk about impatient. 

That's true.  We couldn't just launch it because we were playing against a very strong wind but that appeared to be what some fans wanted.  Some were screaming at Amoo throughout the game and were shouting for Browne - that's Browne who had his worst game in a Vale shirt at Salford when he played instead of Amoo.   And the ironic shouts of olé when we kept possession in the second half were pathetic.

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Conlon has not been great this season and what confuses me is that he's capable of much better,  but for some reason is not playing anywhere near his potential. Conlon can drive forward with the ball and has the capability of producing a decent shot,  but we've not had a sniff of that from him this season. 

Is it the role that he's been asked to play, or has his confidence suffered in some way, because he's certainly not endearing himself to a lot of folks with current performances?  He's not a disaster, but should be upping his levels and having a much greater influence on that midfield in the way that we've seen from him in the past, but sadly, not enough this season. 

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On 16/01/2020 at 15:15, philmpv said:

JA is doing a grand job on a lower budget than last season, with largely the same tools at his disposal. To put it in some context, if NA had remained in charge, I've next to no doubt that we would be fighting at the bottom again, lumping it up to Pope week in week out, not scoring, and conceding left right and centre despite being set up not to concede. The issues caused by the previous regime and managers cannot be sorted overnight, as some on here expect, and all realistic fans are pleasantly surprised with our league position and performances generally. There will always be games during the course of a season where, for whatever reasons, the players don't perform, either collectively or individually, but to lay the blame for that solely at the door of the manager is indicative of today's blame game culture. Sir Alex once presided over a United team who were beaten 6.1 by City. Do individual results make a man or a season? No, of course they don't. JA is in a no win situation really. If he changes it, and we lose, it's his fault (particularly so if we get battered). If he changes it and we win, accusations that he should have done it sooner will be made. Then we lose the next game playing the change of system, And lose. It's JA's fault. And repeat umpteen times. Who'd be a football manager in this day and age!

Who’d be the manager of a football team?Absolutely loads of ppl that’s why when there is a vacation they’re over subscribed with applications. If you are a failure in the role then you get the sack and your contract gets paid. There are only a few elite jobs where this happens, none that I’ve ever had or ppl I know have ever had. There’s always plenty of normal jobs out there, so being a football manager IMO is life on cushy street.

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I’d like to think that the £15 ticket might work but can’t see it myself, please prove me wrong. I believe this is a stunt by Mr Garlick trying to cover his back for not issuing vouchers at our home games against Walsall and Cheltenham to prioritise the MCFC games. This must have cost the club quite a few thousand pounds.There could have been a promotional ticket for the home game against Swindon if purchased before Christmas.

Should the club do away with the ten game ticket.? Instead a 13 game priced at £18 a game £234 or 15 game ticket priced at £16 a game £240. Adult tickets only, just a thought. I have to accept that PVFC have a business model and the above might not be conducive to the plan.

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19 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

Who’d be the manager of a football team?Absolutely loads of ppl that’s why when there is a vacation they’re over subscribed with applications. If you are a failure in the role then you get the sack and your contract gets paid. There are only a few elite jobs where this happens, none that I’ve ever had or ppl I know have ever had. There’s always plenty of normal jobs out there, so being a football manager IMO is life on cushy street.

Should say vacancy, sorry

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8 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:

I’d like to think that the £15 ticket might work but can’t see it myself, please prove me wrong. I believe this is a stunt by Mr Garlick trying to cover his back for not issuing vouchers at our home games against Walsall and Cheltenham to prioritise the MCFC games. This must have cost the club quite a few thousand pounds.There could have been a promotional ticket for the home game against Swindon if purchased before Christmas.

Should the club do away with the ten game ticket.? Instead a 13 game priced at £18 a game £234 or 15 game ticket priced at £16 a game £240. Adult tickets only, just a thought. I have to accept that PVFC have a business model and the above might not be conducive to the plan.

No need to do away with the 10 game ticket,and the prices you suggest for a 15 game ticket  ar’nt far off the full season ticket prices so don’t think there would be many takers.

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2 hours ago, Conrad said:

No need to do away with the 10 game ticket,and the prices you suggest for a 15 game ticket  ar’nt far off the full season ticket prices so don’t think there would be many takers.

Thank you for your reply, I just thought I’d get other ppls opinions. Most ten game tickets have now been used and unless you go in the week £20, ticket will be £22, this might deter ppl from going. Just thought I’d offer an idea to get ppl through the gate as we enter the second half of our home games. So instead of purchasing the 15 game ticket fans might think, I’ll take a season ticket.
It might not work as the club are looking at alternative payment methods for season tickets which everyone must agree is a positive move for the fans and should be applauded. 

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11 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

Thank you for your reply, I just thought I’d get other ppls opinions. Most ten game tickets have now been used and unless you go in the week £20, ticket will be £22, this might deter ppl from going. Just thought I’d offer an idea to get ppl through the gate as we enter the second half of our home games. So instead of purchasing the 15 game ticket fans might think, I’ll take a season ticket.
It might not work as the club are looking at alternative payment methods for season tickets which everyone must agree is a positive move for the fans and should be applauded. 

Agree with the last paragraph, the new monthly payment scheme will be very helpful for those who can’t afford to shell out the cost of a st. In one go.

maybe a bigger uptake in season tickets and less 10 gamers is on the cards.

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On 16/01/2020 at 16:20, Phil said:

That would give me nightmares!

The Smith ,Legge partnership is the strength of our team.

Askey will play Groundhog Day with Pope up front on his own.

Leyton Orient will have done their homework and put two big Centre halves on Pope and this allows them to overload the midfield stopping the crosses coming in.

Just think where we would have been with two up front pressurising  their defence and giving their defenders something to worry about.

I still can’t believe we have a proven goal scorer like Cullen sitting on the bench and not playing alongside Pope.

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45 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

The Smith ,Legge partnership is the strength of our team.

Askey will play Groundhog Day with Pope up front on his own.

Leyton Orient will have done their homework and put two big Centre halves on Pope and this allows them to overload the midfield stopping the crosses coming in.

Just think where we would have been with two up front pressurising  their defence and giving their defenders something to worry about.

I still can’t believe we have a proven goal scorer like Cullen sitting on the bench and not playing alongside Pope.

or maybe not 

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5 minutes ago, Emile said:

Cullen deserves a start, go out there and prove you can do it! 

 

Good changes by JA, cmon Vale!! 

Is this Cullen's first start in the league in the lone striker role?  

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Believe so! It's worth a try were not scoring enough goals and his pace might unlock a park the bus defence. Pope at 70 if we need a goal! Fingers crossed 

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