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7 hours ago, Joe B said:

Got the same impression from a few (not all) City fans on the way back, and on the train.

"Enjoy your day out?"

"Was that your cup final?"

Might be weird but I couldn't sit in a soulless bowl miles out of the city, not a pub in sight, and watch sterile possession football ad infinitum, all funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism.

Their football was utterly tedious today; I used to be a massive fan of Guardiola but give me Klopp's energetic brand any time. Its as conservative as Pulis, with better technical players. Complete risk-aversion. Not an ounce of energy or excitment about it. Hope Liverpool hold out for the title.

I thought Bernardo Silva and Foden looked good, but I forgot David Silva played bar his open-goal miss and Aguero is amongst the most profligate forwards I've witnessed, bundled home tap in aside.

Their starting XI cost £225.4 million pounds from what I can gather, as well as at least an extra £100m on the bench in the form of Walker, Sterling, Mahrez, and Jesus, funnelled in by Saudi Arabia who are desperate to look 'not evil' on the global stage. All to require a deflected long-shot and Mike Dean in a caravan with a VAR computer to see off a club who literally nearly liquidated 8 months ago.

Obviously I'm being slightly hyperbolic; they passed it around nicely at times and the staff were lovely but I've completely u-turned on a club I always had down as a second team since Pep arrived.

You could have literally copied and pasted all of that post from RAWK! Previous to today a team that is (in your opinion) " funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism." was your second team?

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

Just one last (small) point our owners are from Abu Dhabi not Saudi Arabia!!!!!

 

  

 

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5 minutes ago, Cityinpeace said:

You could have literally copied and pasted all of that post from RAWK! Previous to today a team that is (in your opinion) " funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism." was your second team?

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

Just one last (small) point our owners are from Abu Dhabi not Saudi Arabia!!!!!

 

  

 

 

With deference mate..... this is football, what happened last season or the season before isn't worth a rat's ass if you aren't doing it this season, it's just something for the pundits and commentators to say to fill space.

I don't agree with the post you replied to either..... everyone who passes the fit and proper person test must be ok.... right?

We put up a good show, you beat us fair and square, 50,000 people turned up and enjoyed a decent evenings entertainment..... what more could be asked for, given you have players available that cost more than our owners paid for the club..... but let's remember football is a funny old game..... top teams don't always stay at the top and bottom teams don't always stay at the bottom and it's what goes on during the season that makes supporting football what it is.

We don't have millions to spend on players but there we were doing our best with what we have and being proud....... maybe next time eh.

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1 hour ago, Cityinpeace said:

You could have literally copied and pasted all of that post from RAWK! Previous to today a team that is (in your opinion) " funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism." was your second team?

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

Just one last (small) point our owners are from Abu Dhabi not Saudi Arabia!!!!!

 

  

 

 

I've got nothing against your team, mate, I just thought a lot of the posts from your fans were pathetic.  City, like Vale, have spent a lot of their history as the second team in your city.  In the 90s while Fergie's lot were winning title after title you spent a lot of your time in the division below and even had the ignominy of being relegated to the third tier because of Vale's win at Huddersfield on the last day of the 97-98 season. 

Yet some of your fans, most probably the latterday glory hunters, saw fit to mock a team which nearly went out of business last summer because of a lunatic owner and who turned up in numbers to support their players. 

The amount of cash which has been poured into your club in recent years has given you the right to boast about your achievements.  I don't believe it has given your fans the right to mock our club and its supporters.  I would never do that to a non league club if we faced them in the Cup because I would respect that their supporters have backed what is most probably their local team and not mock them because they haven't got as much money as us and aren't as good.

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Still buzzing this morning about those 7 wonderful minutes where we were drawing 1-1 with the Premier League champions. Etihad silent except 8,000 Vale fans going mad. £260 million 1 - 1 £0.... and it took two VAR-approved scrambles and a deflection for them to win.

You only need to look at City vs Burton in the League Cup last season to see what happens when they're taking a cup seriously. City won 9-0 and I feared the worst today... Proud of the guys that they put on a great performance and held out so well.

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Brilliant day out. All I wanted was to have a goal whilst it counted. We got that.

Al the players were superb

There were a small minority of fans who had had to much to drink and were a shove towards other vale fans. But that’s normally the case at away games nowadays.

In fairness I didn’t here any vale fans singing YNWA. Only heard vale songs in Tier 3.

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What a great day! Pope’s goal was by far the best of the game as well. 10 pass build up out from the back, got it wide, great ball in and a stunning record breaking header from a club legend and boyhood fan! Spine tingling stuff! 

City didn’t get out of first gear with Foden and David Silva running the show but I thought we defended well, kept our shape and stayed compact throughout. The lads never stopped trying and gave everything for 90 mins which is all I wanted. 

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9 minutes ago, davehartshill said:

What a great day! Pope’s goal was by far the best of the game as well. 10 pass build up out from the back, got it wide, great ball in and a stunning record breaking header from a club legend and boyhood fan! Spine tingling stuff! 

City didn’t get out of first gear with Foden and David Silva running the show but I thought we defended well, kept our shape and stayed compact throughout. The lads never stopped trying and gave everything for 90 mins which is all I wanted. 

That's all we can ever ask mate and if they can do that every game we are in great shape to progress and get some excitement. 

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I thought Man City as a club have been classy with us but some of their fans maybe not as much but that’s more down to a lack of understanding. They’ve had Billions spent on them and most probably don’t even know that we were above them in the pyramid two decades ago and sent them down with our win. They have grown a large plastic following but I’m easy with that. Compare the atmosphere they had and it wasn’t much and you can’t buy that.

It was a great night and to battle and put in a very respectable performance against a side with World Cup winners etc worth £100s millions regardless of the changes they made is a credit to our progress and our team.

Hopefully we can take confidence from this and take it into the league and try and get a league closer to them.

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2 hours ago, Cityinpeace said:

You could have literally copied and pasted all of that post from RAWK! Previous to today a team that is (in your opinion) " funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism." was your second team?

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

Just one last (small) point our owners are from Abu Dhabi not Saudi Arabia!!!!!

 

  

 

 

Tbf by all accounts Pep and the Man City players were a class act. Inviting the Vale players into the home dressing room, Pep having a glass of wine and long chat with Askey and so.

As I said there are tossers at every club. They tend to be the loudmouths though who ring up phone in shows and post bile on forums. There's been a fair number of forum members posting nonsense on here! Good luck for the rest of the season.

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3 hours ago, Cityinpeace said:

You could have literally copied and pasted all of that post from RAWK! Previous to today a team that is (in your opinion) " funded by the most morally bankrupt nation state on the planet, being used purely as a PR exercise by a nation that executes homosexuals and promotes terrorism." was your second team?

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

Just one last (small) point our owners are from Abu Dhabi not Saudi Arabia!!!!!

 

  

 

 

I have no idea what RAWK! is mate.

I apologise for the mix-up on UAE and Saudi Arabia but I don't think that changes my point on their laws on homosexuality and terrorism. UAE are nearly as bad on both counts.

I really liked Pep, and then the whole 'Catalonia' debate arose and his impassioned plea on that debate, and complete avoidance of the same issues, probably worse, in his employers' nation.

At that point the entire 'sportswashing' sham was revealed to me and I couldn't enjoy City the same way.

Your football is really effective and technically brilliant but when I've seen it before, and confirmed yesterday, its just a tad sterile and clinical. Pass around the back line, work into channels, pull back low across the box.

Your less than full strength side cost well over £200m and you had £100m on the bench. I was hoping for more than a deflected long-shot and scrappy goals that needed VAR. 4th one was good, like.

 

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3 hours ago, Cityinpeace said:

 

Based on 90 minutes of football against inferior opposition (no offence meant) where we fielded a less than full strength side you have decided that a team that have amassed 198 points and scored 201 goals in the last 2 winning premiership seasons lacks energy and is a conservative brand!?

 

  

 

 

You really haven’t got a clue have you. 😂You can stick your millions where the sun don’t shine. While you’re at it, stick your sterile, but for 8000, away fans, stadium, 40 odd thousand fans with no voice.  Stick your sanitised Premier League.  Stick VAR.  Stick your trillionaire foreign owners. I’d choose my “inferior” club any day of the week.  Owned by caring fans, with no other agenda other than the future of the club and local community.

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I don't see why a big deal was made in regards to Pope's comments about John Stones. It's not like he said he was crap. He basically complimented him on being a good player but someone that can be got at physically, which is bang on the money. At his best Stones is an elegant defender and lovely to watch, but he can also be a bit powderpuff at times and can certainly be roughed up. That's not to mention the obvious which is he has a mistake in him.

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I don't see why a big deal was made in regards to Pope's comments about John Stones. It's not like he said he was crap. He basically complimented him on being a good player but someone that can be got at physically, which is bang on the money. At his best Stones is an elegant defender and lovely to watch, but he can also be a bit powderpuff at times and can certainly be roughed up. That's not to mention the obvious which is he has a mistake in him.


Let’s be honest we’ve all said it about England players at times and Tom never knew this tie would happen! I bet other players have said similar about certain top players but would never surface unless the tie came out the hat!

It’s all humour and snowflakes are getting in a tizz about it but to be fair it’s given us huge exposure because of it even in European press so all publicity is good.

He actually said in his tweet Stones is a million times better than him!

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Great day out and The 90 mins was superb as well inside for the first time an amazing stadium.

we scored and not only scored, we equalised. With a wonderful worked goal from back to front. If only we could’ve put a couple more crosses in Pope would’ve scored a another one in certain. The speed they had in closing down and going forward was frightening. When you witness that live it’s scary. Worrall and Amoo, (our quicker players) looked like they couldn’t run second half when up against these lot. 
 

also the Man City fans were a joke. I’ve heard they were awful at the Etihad in terms of atmosphere but I didn’t think they would be that bad. Saturday tee time game, few pints and they still couldn’t sing. Very disappointed. It’s a good job they saw the Vale fans making so much noise. They’ve become a bit of a plastic club now with all that money. Shame 

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Its incredible to think that in a game in which Pep Guardiola managed a team who were signed for fees in excess of £200m (not to mention the millions they spend per week on wages), and with £100m+ of talent sat on the bench, John Askey's Port Vale, assembled for free and 8 months out of near-liquidation, scored by far the most free-flowing goal of the game.

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11 hours ago, Joe B said:

Getting to the point now where, regardless of level played at/individual quality, Tom Pope is amongst the most legendary figures of this club's history:

  • Local lad and fan
  • Record-breaking scoring season to secure our only promotion in 30 years
  • Top scorer in consecutive seasons to keep the club in the Football League
  • Record club goalscorer since 1945
  • Scored at the treble holders away, after tweeting he'd do so
  • Scored the hat-trick to secure the tie at the treble holder
  • 3 time player of the year winner
  • League 2 player of the year

310 games, 109 goals, countless priceless memories.

And manager in the coming future 👍

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What a day! From day drinking in Manchester to watching my team hold their own against one of the best in the world. Every single one of them 14 players and management staff, can hold their heads up high. 
I said before the game all I wanted to see was a meaningful Vale goal and we were treated with a fantastic one. A brilliant team goal capped off by Sir Tom Pope. What a header, this man loves proving people wrong. Special mention to Dave Amoo as well, his cross was sublime. The scenes will stay with me forever. 
I never been as proud to say I support Port Vale. We gave such a good account of ourselves not just on the pitch, but off it as well. 8,000 were loud and a credit to the club. 
What a fantastic evening. UTV!
 

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