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Thank you for the opening analysis. It is really helpful to start debate from there. What I take is there are three players that have advantages and disadvantages in certain types of game and against certain opponents. 

I do watch top level football live a few times a season; so this year I have seen Liverpool twice in the Champions League and Barcelona in La Liga. It gives me some sort of basis to measure and possibly also so does having watched Port Vale for 42 years when I can remember our players at higher levels and particularly Championship level. 

So technically I see Cullen as a Championship level player potentially. Pope is harder to judge, but technically a League 1 level player, needs to adapt to end of career circumstances and more vulnerability to injury. Bennett is a League 2 / National League level player. 

In our squad Worrall is also a Championship level player technically. Brown is a Championship level goalkeeper. Smith is improving, could play higher soon. Joyce could play at League 1, but he will be exposed when asked to play at a higher tempo. Taylor is improving and has a goal scoring threat which makes him really valuable and should see him at Championship level eventually. 

Everyone else I see as in the right place - League 2. 

Going back to strikers, to push for the top we need to get Cullen in the side. There must be a reason why this isn't happening. Pope is really useful and we should extend his career as far as possible - we won't be able to sign anyone as good with his attributes easily at our level. Bennett is useful when we want a mobile attack but still with some physical presence. He does a lot well, but he doesn't have a big technical playbook, especially he could be better back to goal and shooting on target. 

But all these guys try hard and want to play for Port Vale; and that counts for a lot. 

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8 hours ago, MelbourneValiant said:

Pope's had trick at Cheltenham has earned the club upwards of 250k. That shows his importance.

 

No matter who plays up front I think we would be better with two out and out strikers who can read and feed off each other. 

Pope's record alongside another out and out striker is mixed. He only really scored regularly with Maynard for half a season at Crewe. He only scored 2 goals when partnered with Hughes. He scored a hat trick against Cheltenham after Hughes went off early with a knock and a goal in the following match towards the end of the promotion season when Hughes was injured. When he plays with another out and out striker he tends to drop deeper or run the channels. He tends to score more with a number 10 or someone like Williamson who naturally run the channels.

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Hughes was a Premier League standard player. He may have been right at the end of his career when at Vale Park, but he was an immaculate finisher. So Pope took the weight up front from him keeping the defenders occupied. I hope that if Pope was partnered with Cullen that is what would happen. 

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19 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Look at his record with Adam Le Fondre at Rotherham and James Vaughan at Bury. 

4 league goals at Rotherham and 10 at Bury. Not prolific with either.

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8 minutes ago, Warren said:

Hughes was a Premier League standard player. He may have been right at the end of his career when at Vale Park, but he was an immaculate finisher. So Pope took the weight up front from him keeping the defenders occupied. I hope that if Pope was partnered with Cullen that is what would happen. 

At 34 Pope isn't really that suited to running the channels anymore. For me he's either the focal point or something different off the bench. They've tried fitting Cullen in as a number 10 a couple of times off the bench.

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Am I right in thinking that Micky Adams told Popey to get in the box and score, rather than getting involved in the build up play?

Hence feed the Pope...and he did score.

Not sure how he's being utilised now.

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