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On 31/12/2019 at 16:54, Jacko51 said:

The Tory majority leading into the 97 election was only 20.  And Kinnock had already clawed back 40 odd seats in 92 rather than lost that amount.

The Tory's didn't have an overall majority in 2019 and yet Corbyn still couldn't overturn that!

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3 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

The Tory's didn't have an overall majority in 2019 and yet Corbyn still couldn't overturn that!

Jezza started the day within touching distance of No 10 and ended the day in the Russian steppes. 

It's a bit like the ending of white heat ( Cagney classic 1949)..... standing on top of a gas storage tank he shouts top of the world then shoots the gas tank.

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4 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

The Tory's didn't have an overall majority in 2019 and yet Corbyn still couldn't overturn that!

Who said any different????

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On 31/12/2019 at 13:56, Davebrad said:

in a nut shell... and again me being cynical but what a example if they would donate a part of their pay, £79,468/yr because their expenses cover a lot of ordinary living expenses, in 2009 they had £90505 to cover staff, which could be family members. Do they pay for a cuppa, or a meal in the commons café/restaurant after a long session? they could be saving 90% of their pay for after they get kicked out, oh and when they do go they get a resettlement payment which in 2015 of £33,000 if they had "served" 6yrs or more, has as been said in the last few years a gravy train...

   This is for all not a knock against labour, but they seem to make more play out of being equal, and we all remember DA and the private school, sorry if i'm offending anyone by bringing that up... Its all a bit like communist states where all is for the state, and the leaders live in big houses and chauffeured in big cars, we all are equal but some more than others.

https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/britains-youngest-mp-will-donate-half-salary-charity/policy-and-politics/article/1668843

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On 31/12/2019 at 13:50, For Us All said:

Anybody know what "progressive patriotism" is?

It's labour trying to use patriotism as q buzzword to hoodwink their heartland voters. 

The progressive part will be all of the identity politics and far left garbage that they know the traditional voters wholly reject.

They think we are stupid. Still. More fool them. 

 

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19 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

Who said any different????

It was a riposte to your post at 16.54hrs on 31st December--you must try and post less, but remember more!

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7 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

It was a riposte to your post at 16.54hrs on 31st December--you must try and post less, but remember more!

I say again, who said any different.  Your post bore relation to the one I had quoted.  And it would be really helpful if you didn't leave it two days before responding.  Too drunk over New Year?!!

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19 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

Thanks for the nudge above, I did see it online somewhere but wasn't thinking about it when I posted. I applaud the young lady and before anyone accuse me of being sexist, at my age all or most  ladies are young, that article should be sent to all mp's to shame them into perhaps acting appropriately...

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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

I say again, who said any different.  Your post bore relation to the one I had quoted.  And it would be really helpful if you didn't leave it two days before responding.  Too drunk over New Year?!!

Of course, what better time to get drunk--happy new year--post less, live more-get a life!

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22 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

Got one thanks. 

Good for you! Let's hope that Vale get a second one with a replay at Vale Towers!--Live commentary on Radio 5 Live

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On 02/01/2020 at 20:45, Regal Beagle said:

It's labour trying to use patriotism as q buzzword to hoodwink their heartland voters. 

The progressive part will be all of the identity politics and far left garbage that they know the traditional voters wholly reject.

They think we are stupid. Still. More fool them. 

 

Their latest one is "micro aggression"?

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2 hours ago, For Us All said:

Their latest one is "micro aggression"?

Yeah, complete losers. 

It is just complete and utter lies.

Look at the treatment of Laurence Fox after his brilliant question time appearance last week. 

He is being vilified as a far right racist online despite being vociferously anti racist. In fact, he called out the racism of an audience member who said that he couldnt understand the criticism of Meghan was racist, because he is white.

 

I know the context is wholly different but can you imagine if someone publically said that black people didn't have the capacity to understand something? 

 

The majority of racism is on the left nowadays, as with most other forms of intolerance. Especially the intolerance of different ideas. 

 

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1 hour ago, Regal Beagle said:

Yeah, complete losers. 

It is just complete and utter lies.

Look at the treatment of Laurence Fox after his brilliant question time appearance last week. 

He is being vilified as a far right racist online despite being vociferously anti racist. In fact, he called out the racism of an audience member who said that he couldnt understand the criticism of Meghan was racist, because he is white.

 

I know the context is wholly different but can you imagine if someone publically said that black people didn't have the capacity to understand something? 

 

The majority of racism is on the left nowadays, as with most other forms of intolerance. Especially the intolerance of different ideas. 

 

The audience member,as Fiona Bruce introduced her,was no other than university lecturer Rachel Boyle who reviews the newspapers on BBC News.

Rather convenient that?

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5 hours ago, For Us All said:

The audience member,as Fiona Bruce introduced her,was no other than university lecturer Rachel Boyle who reviews the newspapers on BBC News.

Rather convenient that?

Funny how it always seems to be a labour activist or a bbc journalist in these left wing viral clips.

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