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Unfortunately I suspect he'll go to a team higher up the ladder. It's very difficult attracting players at our level. Several clubs in league two and most of them in league one could offer him better wages. But he has matured here and done really well for us. Scoring goals from midfield has been a huge problem for a number of seasons and he's made a difference. But who knows? We are fairly local for him and if he has bought into the new regime then we might have an inkling.

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Jake Taylor has come a long way in a short space of time, to the point where he's become an important cog in our side. If he left in January then all of a sudden we would have a problem.

Maybe people at Forest are looking at him and thinking he needs to go somewhere else, to test himself at a higher level, but the flip side of that is he would have to go and earn his place at a new club and risk becoming a squad player, getting 15 minutes here, a time wasting sub there...

At Vale he's getting regular first team football and very noticeably he's on a learning curve. It might not be in his interest to get off it just yet.

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25 minutes ago, TheSage said:

Unfortunately I suspect he'll go to a team higher up the ladder. It's very difficult attracting players at our level. Several clubs in league two and most of them in league one could offer him better wages. But he has matured here and done really well for us. Scoring goals from midfield has been a huge problem for a number of seasons and he's made a difference. But who knows? We are fairly local for him and if he has bought into the new regime then we might have an inkling.

Maybe depends on where we are at the end of the season? If we're there or thereabouts we may be an opportunity worth taking.

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We've got to do everything in our power to keep Taylor past Xmas. Browne is also a real asset and I hope he takes his 1st team opportunities like he has tonight

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10 hours ago, Joe B said:

Very reasonable performance considering the 7 changes and them having a few decent names out.

Played some good football and two well taken goals.

I believe Taylor is out of contract in the summer and I read on a Forest website that its not thought he'll be given a new deal.

Special mention to the utter freaks who cheered Lloyd getting subbed; he didn't play well but was far from disastrous, and actually had 3 decent attempts on goal in the first half. Absolute weirdos who shouldn't be allowed out on a school night. Have your little vendettas all you want but please do your very best and get it into your thick skulls that denigrating a Vale player's confidence every time he steps out in a Vale shirt is proper strange behaviour, and you all need your hard drives checking. WAAAAAAAY Bazza chuckles to his mate, another destruction of a Vale player complete. "That's my job done", Bazza thinks. Well worth the tenner entry, managed to give Lloyd another mental kicking, as he leaves before penalties to take to Facebook to give him a bit more stick.

Rant over. Great week, great time to be a Valiant.

Totally agree re Lloyd. The only time a player deserves to be jeered is if they’re not trying. Lloyd is never not going to give his all. 

In all honesty it’s just bullying. It’s some sad no marks who’ve made nothing of their lives who like to pick on easy targets because it makes them feel big. 

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29 minutes ago, Woakesy said:

Totally agree re Lloyd. The only time a player deserves to be jeered is if they’re not trying. Lloyd is never not going to give his all. 

In all honesty it’s just bullying. It’s some sad no marks who’ve made nothing of their lives who like to pick on easy targets because it makes them feel big. 

The reason Lloyd is such an easy target is that he is absolutely dire and not good enough for league football.

Askey tries to justify his signing by giving him countless chances which he never takes and it is like playing with ten men when ever he plays.

Needs to go out on loan in January to a non league team to allow a better signing to fill his place.

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12 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

like playing with ten men when ever he plays.

 

Either we're good at "playing with ten man" or he is contributing because we've only lost three of the eleven games in which he's featured this season :whistling:

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We all have our favourites and those we think are fortunate to be in the team but clearly the manager see something in these players and we should support them - all of them.

When has directing abuse at someone or booing them ever done any good? I've been watching football for 50 years and am yet to see an example of that. It's bonkers jeering your own players.

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16 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

The reason Lloyd is such an easy target is that he is absolutely dire and not good enough for league football.

Askey tries to justify his signing by giving him countless chances which he never takes and it is like playing with ten men when ever he plays.

Needs to go out on loan in January to a non league team to allow a better signing to fill his place.

Lloyd was far from our worst player last night - in my opinion that honour went to Callum Evans. He was very poor but funnily enough, I never once booed him. Not even when he let that guy run past him and score the late equaliser. Some folk don’t understand the word “supporter”. 

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I did. But Ainsworth and Naylor top the lot.
Better be careful what I put on here...getting accused now of 'wanting attention'. God give me strength


Ah, just their personalities you didn’t like

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5 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Lloyd was far from our worst player last night - in my opinion that honour went to Callum Evans. He was very poor but funnily enough, I never once booed him. Not even when he let that guy run past him and score the late equaliser. Some folk don’t understand the word “supporter”. 

I think if we won 10-0 some people would still want to moan that we didn't hit eleven.

Or should that be - after losing once in ten games, still being in two cup competitions, earning some welcome cup cash, welcoming back our most high profile supporter, announcing a huge concert, drawing the cup holders in the FA Cup, planning to sort out the Lorne Street stand in the summer and having owners who clearly care about the club... some fans will STILL complain...

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Lloyd did okay last night.

Calum Evans looks a total liability as a full back. He often tries a bit too hard to play a long ball rather than keeping it simple. And he should’ve done better for their equaliser. 

Browne looks a very good player and I think he will soon be really pushing for a first team place. 

Thought we played quite well but made hard work of it in the end. 

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I learned an awful lot from last nights game. A number of good steady performances but several came up dreadfully short and on the strength of this display simply aren't good enough.

 A few things that are abundantly clear is that we desperately need a left back who has pace. Cullen isn't a one up front player and needs to have someone to feed off. Atkinson after a superb debut was very disappointing. Archer showed little willingness to put himself about and press their defence when he came on. I would have thought he would have run his socks off to make an impression. Sadly Ryan LLoyd wasn't good enough when he was here befote and unfortunately he hasn't improved.

   Plus points Brown played well on the left flank and Smithy is a rock in our defence

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47 minutes ago, old sage said:

I learned an awful lot from last nights game. A number of good steady performances but several came up dreadfully short and on the strength of this display simply aren't good enough.

 A few things that are abundantly clear is that we desperately need a left back who has pace. Cullen isn't a one up front player and needs to have someone to feed off. Atkinson after a superb debut was very disappointing. Archer showed little willingness to put himself about and press their defence when he came on. I would have thought he would have run his socks off to make an impression. Sadly Ryan LLoyd wasn't good enough when he was here befote and unfortunately he hasn't improved.

   Plus points Brown played well on the left flank and Smithy is a rock in our defence

It’s funny that after atkinsons debut we saw the usual knee jerk reaction of fans immediately wanting him to stay in the team as if he was the best thing ever. Yet right under our nose has been Gibbons who (bar a couple of games) is having a very steady and reliable season and over time it’s been proved IMO that we have no other better option than him there. Meanwhile on the left Evans isnt taking the chance that Crookes injury and Montys defensive liability is presenting, which leads me to believe we need to get a new left back in come January. 

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26 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

It’s funny that after atkinsons debut we saw the usual knee jerk reaction of fans immediately wanting him to stay in the team as if he was the best thing ever. Yet right under our nose has been Gibbons who (bar a couple of games) is having a very steady and reliable season and over time it’s been proved IMO that we have no other better option than him there. 

It demonstrates the unintelligence of football fans I'm afraid... There were people slating Gibbons and writing him off after a run of a few bad games.

There are some serious sad cases who only get pleasure out of having a go at players. 

Lots of them were having a go at Askey... he has made them look daft, so they skulk away into a w=hole and go quiet for a bit and wait for their target to play. Then jump out and have a pop completely independent of how their target has played.

That said... the main culprit is only doing it for attention and it baffles me how people still think replying to him is the best response. 

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1 hour ago, Iron Curtain said:

It demonstrates the unintelligence of football fans I'm afraid... There were people slating Gibbons and writing him off after a run of a few bad games.

There are some serious sad cases who only get pleasure out of having a go at players. 

Lots of them were having a go at Askey... he has made them look daft, so they skulk away into a w=hole and go quiet for a bit and wait for their target to play. Then jump out and have a pop completely independent of how their target has played.

That said... the main culprit is only doing it for attention and it baffles me how people still think replying to him is the best response. 

I wouldn’t even of said he’d had a bad run of games. Macclesfield like everyone else and probably Scunthorpe. Other than that no problem IMO. This season I think we’ve had a lot of key players step up with consistency and that’s one of the reasons why we’ve done so well. 

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I haven't seen anyone having a go at Gibbons. He was abysmal at Macc but I think most said "it's one bad game" etc, unless my memory is fading. He's certainly been one of our better players over the season and I think he will be attracting attention from higher up the ladder in the summer, if not before. 

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