General Erection - 12th December 2019

[Fosse69]

2 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

Can't get much more democratic than a general election!

I thought a referendum was, direct instead of representative democracy, of course that assumes they are properly planned. 

[Jacko51]

4 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Not at all,but it obviously wasn't deemed serious enough to warrant an investigation.

Or plastered all over the Daily Heil come to that.

[For Us All]

17 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

In every general election since the war - and before - the losers have continued to fight to win the next one.  Democracy does not end with one vote, it's a continuous process.

Yes,but they've honoured the result of the election first and then moved on to try and win the next one.

[Jacko51]

2 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Yes,but they've honoured the result of the election first and then moved on to try and win the next one.

Explain how the opposition honours the result of the election when at the first PMQs after each one they go for the PMs throat????

[For Us All]

7 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Or plastered all over the Daily Heil come to that.

I'm sure the Guardian and the Mirror had plenty of plasterers.

[Jacko51]

Just now, For Us All said:

I'm sure the Guardian and the Mirror had plenty of plasterers.

Find some.

[For Us All]

40 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Explain how the opposition honours the result of the election when at the first PMQs after each one they go for the PMs throat????

Well,the outgoing PM would have gone to see the Queen at Buckingham Palace, tendered his resignation and then recommended that the leader of the opposition party replaces him.

Job done,election honoured.

[geosname]

The Muslims have joined in..... all we need now are the Catholic and the protestant reps to join and we have a bridge game..... not sure anyone would bid spades but everyone seems to be digging a hole.

[Jacko51]

2 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Well,the outgoing PM would have gone to see the Queen at Buckingham Palace, tendered his resignation and then recommended that the leader of the opposition party replaces him.

Job done,election honoured.

Ted Heath didn’t do that in 74. He fannied around for ages trying to cling on. 

[philpvfc]

And still Corbyn refuses to apologise over anti-semitism claims

[Jacko51]

8 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

And still Corbyn refuses to apologise over anti-semitism claims

Did you not see what he said on the 6 o’clock News????

[philpvfc]

Today’s claims against Corbyn doesn’t seem to have done any harm as opinion polls have shown Labour to have closed ground on The Conservatives. Guess Labour had already lost the Jewish vote.

[philpvfc]

2 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Did you not see what he said on the 6 o’clock News????

No, just looking at the BBC news report on it.

[philpvfc]

Unless you’ve seen something different, he definitely refuses to apologise.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/26/general-election-jeremy-corbyn-anti-semitism-chief-rabbi-brexit/

[TheSage]

We need to nail this myth about the independent press being equally split between right and left, and put it to bed once and for all.

A tiny handful of extremely wealthy people own over 80% of the press.

Lord Rothermere owns the Mail, avoids tax by living in France, and bankrolls the Tories. He also owns the Metro. 

Murdoch owns the Times newspapers and the Sun, lives in the US, funds the Tories and is another who avoids UK tax.

Until very recently Desmond owned the most pro Tory & Brexit publication - the Express - but it's recently been bought by the Mirror group. It's stance has not changed. He's another tax avoider.

The Telegraph is owned by the billionaire Barclay brothers who avoid UK taxes by living in the Channel Islands on a private island and tax haven.

The London Evening Standard is owned by a Russian billionaire, ex-KGB, and supports the Tories.

The Financial Times supports the Tories and is owned by a Japanese group.

So, there are 10-11 weekly papers, with a circulation of around 42 million (in print and on-line) that finance and support the Tory line in a very biased and aggressive manner.

On the other side you have the Independent, owned by the same Russian billionaires. It is perhaps more leftist than anything else but does include Tory articles and tries to maintain some neutrality.

The Guardian from Manchester is owned by a trust and a limited company. It is left wing.

The Mirror Group (inc. the People) is owned by Trinity PLC and is very left in its opinions, the only tabloid that is.

So, here we have 3-4 papers, with a combined circulation of around 14 million, who support the Labour Party.

Lesson 1. Clearly the press isn't independent nor free.

Lesson 2. Don't believe everything you read.

Lesson 3. There is an overwhelming bias in the press for the Tories.

Here endeth the lesson. Glad to be of assistance.