General Erection - 12th December 2019

[Fosse69]

17 minutes ago, geosname said:

Are these documents available for public view?

Not available in digital form..  It conforms with Trump`s plan, raising prices abroad allows home prices to be reduced.

[Fosse69]

27 minutes ago, geosname said:

If they are legal then they have the right under law..... make your mind up.

If we are in the EU,  under free movement we have little control. If we are in and by agreeing to the membership rules we have to allow free movement we should respect that..... however we should be warey of other members decisions on immigration.

Free movement applies to job seekers under EU law, refugees come under UN rules.

[ginge]

29 minutes ago, geosname said:

If they are legal then they have the right under law..... make your mind up.

If we are in the EU,  under free movement we have little control. If we are in and by agreeing to the membership rules we have to allow free movement we should respect that..... however we should be warey of other members decisions on immigration.

The people on the poster were Syrian refugees. They had nothing to do with Brexit. The poster was frightening people into thinking that they had the right to just walk into the UK without any control. But they didn't because the UK is not part of the Common asylum policy.

[Jacko51]

36 minutes ago, ginge said:

The people on the poster were Syrian refugees. They had nothing to do with Brexit. The poster was frightening people into thinking that they had the right to just walk into the UK without any control. But they didn't because the UK is not part of the Common asylum policy.

I’m looking for a brick wall that you can bang your head against, ginge!!

[geosname]

3 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

I’m looking for a brick wall that you can bang your head against, ginge!!

Trumps building one..... is it big enough

[geosname]

42 minutes ago, ginge said:

The people on the poster were Syrian refugees. They had nothing to do with Brexit. The poster was frightening people into thinking that they had the right to just walk into the UK without any control. But they didn't because the UK is not part of the Common asylum policy.

If you listen to politicians and believe what they say you deserve to be frightened..... especially when electioneering. 

I didn't believe the Syrians/Turks  were coming..... or that £350M or whatever would be spent on the NHS..... or that the economy would crash on day one.... or that unemployment would skyrocket.... it made sense the pound would fall if leave won because of the uncertainty.

[Bycarsbill]

2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

And what did we get?  The DUP, one of the most bigoted parties you’re ever likely to see. 

And your point is.........???

[geosname]

1 hour ago, Fosse69 said:

Not available in digital form..  It conforms with Trump`s plan, raising prices abroad allows home prices to be reduced.

So we have 2 liars calling each other liars

[Fosse69]

2 minutes ago, geosname said:

So we have 2 liars calling each other liars

Trump and Johnson?

[Bycarsbill]

2 hours ago, ginge said:

It was 2 years ago. Youre pretending another one will solve the brexit issue. The last one was designed to do the same. It did not. 

Don't patronise me. I know what democracy means.

Three years of the last parliament didn't "solve the Brexit problem".  You may well be right inasmuch as a hung parliament again will no doubt plunge the country into another drawn-out series of arguments, counter-arguments and total deadlock over everything and not just Brexit!

[For Us All]

2 hours ago, ginge said:

They had no right under law. I am serious.

The poster made out all these syrian refugees were all coming to the UK. It says we must break free from the EU and take back control. The point is by law we already had the control. Illegal immigration is a complete separate issue.

Do immigrants follow the law? Are you seriously suggesting legal immigrants that come to the UK don't? 

And for those illegal immigrants who risk their lives trying to move...you must really be desperate to leave to do the things they do.

Imagine the outrage if Boris had made 45,000 jobless,many of whom are immigrants,when he was Mayor of London?

[ginge]

48 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Imagine the outrage if Boris had made 45,000 jobless,many of whom are immigrants,when he was Mayor of London?

This has nothing to do with me explaining how Farage is racist.

Not really sure what your point is

[geosname]

1 hour ago, Fosse69 said:

Trump and Johnson?

Trump is irrelevant

[geosname]

It appears the 400+ pages 're the NHS are things the US wants or would like not what is on offer..... now that's a surprise.

Has jezza dropped the idea of giving shares to the workers?

[Bycarsbill]

2 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

Not available in digital form..  It conforms with Trump`s plan, raising prices abroad allows home prices to be reduced.

These documents are apparently from 2017and no government ministers were directly involved. It is clearly just the first skirmishes of what will become many long and drawn-out negotitaions over trade deals if we do get clear of the EU.  If Corbyn is so confident of his ability to 1) get into No. 10 Downing St. 2) To be able to negotiate a separate and better deal with the EU what's he worrying about? If he is so good and puts this new deal (he's brilliantly negotiated of course!) or a remain option to the people in a 2nd referendum (which of course he'll stay neutral on-thus not actually backing his 'brilliant new deal'!!!),either way, whatever conspiracy theory he's trying to hatch over these papers is surely totally irrelevant?