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First time since Page that I've gone to games expecting us to at least challenge for a win. Admittedly sometimes we don't show up but giving fans that belief is an absolute godsend. I used to wonder why I was even listening on the radio, let alone travelling down for matches, and would never have wanted to put my little boy through a lifetime of supporting such a moribund club but it really feels like we're on an upwards trajectory now. We have a club worth supporting, at last.

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1 hour ago, The man in the pub said:

Maths wasn't my greatest strength but I did check the statistics and  24+31+31 = 86, if Aspin had 78 games what happened in the other 8 games ?

Check Wickiepedia.

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17 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

Check Wickiepedia.

Much more reliable using Transfrmarkt or Soccerbase for stats rather than that. Wikipedia is nearly always completely out of date at the worst, or slightly incorrect at best. Until recently it showed Amoo as having played 0 games last season for Cambridge.

 

Aspin correct stats P78 W24 D23 L31 as per Soccerbase, your 31% was correct. Those games figures (draws?) must have been messed up in your previous post if copied from WP maybe. However, stats only show half the story IMO.

 

Surely it's clear for anyone who has been to the majority of games these season that we're a lot better than last season. Few garbage performances/results aside (Stevenage/Macc/Oldham/Grimsby), we look a decent side. Wobbles are to be expected, & given the last few years under NS, people would have to be insane to expect everything to go all smooth straight away & automatic promotion.

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We are all entitled to our opinion but i can't believe resorting to comparison of stats is being used.

Anyone who can't see the difference is deluded, we are completely the opposite to what we were 12 months ago.

We have a bench now of first team possibles, we are playing way better football. There is a general positivity from ( most ) of our fan base. 

Yes we all get frustrated at the Oldham and Stevenage games. Is it a coincidence that four of our best wins are FGR, Plymouth, Bradford and Crewe ? All teams who wanted to play the game.

I'm sure JA himself knows we have to find a way against the spoilers and as of yet we haven't found the key. But this season is a breathe of fresh air to the last couple of years.

Knowing Vale we will struggle against a Carlisle team who are in the bottom few and then the haters will be out in force again.

If you can't accept that this team and squad is light years ahead of what has gone before then i give up. 

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4 hours ago, The man in the pub said:

Maths wasn't my greatest strength but I did check the statistics and  24+31+31 = 86, if Aspin had 78 games what happened in the other 8 games ?

Ernie added 8 extra draws in for some reason, but the 31% win percentage s still correct

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Much more reliable using Transfrmarkt or Soccerbase for stats rather than that. Wikipedia is nearly always completely out of date at the worst, or slightly incorrect at best. Until recently it showed Amoo as having played 0 games last season for Cambridge.

 

Aspin correct stats P78 W24 D23 L31 as per Soccerbase, your 31% was correct. Those games figures (draws?) must have been messed up in your previous post if copied from WP maybe. However, stats only show half the story IMO.

Nah, Wikipedia was correct, Ernie messed them up on his own

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I love stats and all, but take a look at the Super Vale Away video from Saturday and tell me Askey hasn't done a good job with his squad in terms of creating a bit of unity and spirit in the club for the first time in nearly a decade.

Remember where this club was around February, then go to the back end of this vid.

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We are a far better side and Askey is doing a cracking job of setting the foundations for the team to continue to improve.

Its both evident and obvious from our performances, the league table, strength of the squad and feeling of the vast vast vast majority of the fans.

Are we perfect... no.

Are we heading in the right direction after years of being made a laughing stock out of... yes.

Do the new owners, manager, backroom staff and Players deserve lots of credit, patience and support for that... absolutely!

Some people love a moan and that’s what makes them happy... picking up on any small blip in the slow and steady improvement of Port Vale, focusing on the shortest possible term view, having a dig and singling out individual players for vitriolic relentless abuse. It’s boring, basic and shows a lack of understanding in the turnaround that was both desperately needed and the effort it will take to complete the job.

As the old saying goes, there is nowt as queer as folk! 

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34 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

 

As the old saying goes, there is nowt as queer as folk! 

Of all the people who post on here, there are 2.5 moaners.

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Good article on Askey from ‘The sack race’

Before the moaners get accepted by their title, they are praising him and saying what a good job he is doing.

https://www.thesackrace.com/news/4th-november-2019/three-ways-port-vale-have-found-an-identity-under-john-askey

The three things they point out are:

1. Clear tactical style playing 433

2. Excellent depth and balance in the squad

3. Fan backing

 

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2 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

On that video above, has anyone noticed the Vale fan in the black and white striped t-shirt spitting at (presumably) the Crewe keeper at 8:31?! Sure you can even hear it.

You can as well!

Never right

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There always have and will always be, people who seek to moan and bristle by proclaiming  ‘It told you so’’ when we do have a setback. They are the ones who think that being rescued from near obliteration, then not running away with the league, is poor showing and that steady progress equates to failure. We can’t do anything about that because that’s the way they are wired and will never change, so can only be ignored by those who air on the side of realism and positivity. If any proof of progress is needed, then, without getting too carried away, look at how many people are now raising their expectations, as a result of the rain check of the past couple of weeks. What were those expectations this time last year, let alone when we were playing our 36th game of the season?  Now tell me that we aren’t a better outfit all round. I can hear the sound of lips smacking at any prospect of impending doom already. 

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11 hours ago, Iron Curtain said:

Good article on Askey from ‘The sack race’

Before the moaners get accepted by their title, they are praising him and saying what a good job he is doing.

https://www.thesackrace.com/news/4th-november-2019/three-ways-port-vale-have-found-an-identity-under-john-askey

The three things they point out are:

1. Clear tactical style playing 433

2. Excellent depth and balance in the squad

3. Fan backing

 

Excellent. 

Key words for me ' calming influence'.

Not someone who shoots his mouth off.

He does, however, have a quiet determination and humility.

Just what's required.

Especially in the face of knee jerking, fickle and impossible to please commentators.

Keep up the good work JA.

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6 minutes ago, SFBT said:

Excellent. 

Key words for me ' calming influence'.

Not someone who shoots his mouth off.

He does, however, have a quiet determination and humility.

Just what's required.

Especially in the face of knee jerking, fickle and impossible to please commentators.

Keep up the good work JA.

I also think his role at Macc where he basically ran the place from top to bottom is invaluable for us now as Carol and Kevin settle in.

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18 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

On that video above, has anyone noticed the Vale fan in the black and white striped t-shirt spitting at (presumably) the Crewe keeper at 8:31?! Sure you can even hear it.

The kid in the black and white top spitting at the Crewe keeper should be banned.

We don’t need supporters like that.

Didnt know Popey wears a bra.

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52 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

 

Didnt know Popey wears a bra.

Think that is the GPS tracker thing. You see Pope's a lot, because he's always getting the shirt pulled off his back.

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JA needs to be given time. Consistency is key now, he's building up the relationship between the players, we are improving on an off the pitch. In my opinion there is no scenario where in three years time we are struggling at the bottom of L2

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