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Rowett is a good manager, although his tactics can be boring. Jones is a good manager but maybe jumped up the ladder too quickly. The problem is that Stoke have not spent wisely and have a poor Championship squad. They should stay up but the Premiership money is drying up and they are continuing to buy <ovf censored> players.

long may it continue.

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Apparently just announced the the crowd over the tannoy 25,308 🤣🤣🤣

Interestingly I was sat next to the Stoke official who works out their home attendances, he hadn't gone to QPR so called in to watch us today. I asked him what he thought the crowd was this afternoon?

They are the most fragile supporters in club football. The weakest chinned, the most fickle, the most bluntly demanding. They don’t care about us at all and the multiple anti Vale threads that ru

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Correct. Best possible result. Narrowly scrape a win in a meaningless cup game that earns 0 league points but keeps Agent Jones in position for several games yet. Thank you Leeds, your contribution to the cause is most admirable. 

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At any level, even with top level players, it takes time to integrate them into a team. Arsenal have taken their time introducing the likes of Pepe. Askey has taken flak for not bringing signings straight in, as did Rudge at times. Under Aspin we made a lot of changes at the start of last season yet the same players look better after 12 months together. Stoke players look like they barely know one another, which in many cases they don't. Big dilema now for Stoke, carry on and keep stability or twist and bring in another half dozen players a new manager fancies at Christmas.

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2 hours ago, JRC said:

At any level, even with top level players, it takes time to integrate them into a team. Arsenal have taken their time introducing the likes of Pepe. Askey has taken flak for not bringing signings straight in, as did Rudge at times. Under Aspin we made a lot of changes at the start of last season yet the same players look better after 12 months together. Stoke players look like they barely know one another, which in many cases they don't. Big dilema now for Stoke, carry on and keep stability or twist and bring in another half dozen players a new manager fancies at Christmas.

I say keep stability,Nathan is the man for the job.His win record of 3 in 27 proves it.

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This Stoke side looks bad on paper and are obviously even worse on grass. To me it’s no surprise the Prize Bully’s are struggling as, possibly Ince apart, I don’t see a decent player. They even have James McClean for heavens sake !

There also clearly seems a rift between manager and players, so put these factors together and another relegation campaign is on the cards 🙏🏻

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Should never have lost Rowett. They think they're much bigger than they are. Rowett was slowly getting them back to an average championship team and could have got them fighting for promotion in a few years. Nathan Jones is average at best. Needs his own squad and everyone to be on his terms.

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On the surface, it looked like Nathan Jones had done a "great job" during his time at Luton. Promotion from L2, a team that scores bags of goals and then took to L1 football easily (before finishing the promotion job after he left).

However.

When you look at the financials for the season Luton got promoted from L2, they spent £1m (ONE MILLION) in transfer fees and had an AVERAGE wage of £3k per week! Crazy numbers for our league!

Take any L2 team and spend that kind of money and you could have Jim Gannon in charge and achieve success!

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Shame they don't play Luton for a few months, would have been hilarious to see Jones' side get beaten by a mediocre Championship team he helped assemble. Unfortunately, chances are he won't be there by the time Stoke do play them.

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Just read Jones’ views on Stoke’s season so far and he thinks they’re doing ok. This section of his thoughts attracted my attention.

”It’s just ;

1) we’re not taking our chances and scoring one more than our opponents and

2) we’re not able to keep a clean sheet at the moment”

But other than that not doing too bad then obviously Nathan !

Nathan Jones - specialist subject - stating the bleedin’ obvious !

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1 hour ago, RailwayRowdy said:

Just read Jones’ views on Stoke’s season so far and he thinks they’re doing ok. This section of his thoughts attracted my attention.

”It’s just ;

1) we’re not taking our chances and scoring one more than our opponents and

2) we’re not able to keep a clean sheet at the moment”

But other than that not doing too bad then obviously Nathan !

Nathan Jones - specialist subject - stating the bleedin’ obvious !

I think RR most Vale fans would agree with him, in fact I would go one step further and say he is doing a great job.

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