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16 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

To me it’s so frustrating. If we had actually signed another 2/3 first team players who would improve us we would be a very decent side. Not sure the sides like Northampton and Salford will be any where than the top. 

salford and Northampton spend on players would be far excess to ours and we have more than matched these teams but agree 2-3 more first teamers signed would certainly have us in the top half maybe pushing top 6, think we are light once we get past the first 13/14 players which when suspensions and injuries could take its toll on results.

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1 minute ago, elav trop 1876 said:

salford and Northampton spend on players would be far excess to ours and we have more than matched these teams but agree 2-3 more first teamers signed would certainly have us in the top half maybe pushing top 6, think we are light once we get past the first 13/14 players which when suspensions and injuries could take its toll on results.

Oh yeah definitely on paper they should be top 2/3 but they both looked very average. I fancied us to win yesterday after Salford getting battered by Crawley and Then losing 3-0 at home to Leeds. I agree we are very light after the starting 11 + Cullen and Bennett. 

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12 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Oh yeah definitely on paper they should be top 2/3 but they both looked very average. 

Wonder if that had anything to do with who they were playing? 

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I didn’t think Salford were any great shakes and I don’t really think threatened us that much with good chances, yet their style of play / formation meant they got the ball back a bit too easily at times. They played with wing backs and their 3 centre halves seemed to get a lot of time on the ball to be throwing long diagonals at us and down our left they caused us problems in the first half. But i did think there were long spells in the match where we looked comfortable and we dealt with them well and second half I felt they were hardly a threat.

 

Because of their formation I think we needed to have an extra body up top just to stop them having so much of the ball. But having said that we were creating chances in the second half that should have won us the game. Bennet definitely should have scored 2 and I’d have put my house on Pope with the back post header as well. 

 

I have to say that their big forward was lucky to stay on the pitch, he threw 2 elbows in to Legges face in the second half that looked blatant and in front of the ref too.

 

Their goal is a poor one to concede. Monty played a big part in it, not just in conceding the free kick but he also decided to press their keeper when he had the ball in his hands, which is pointless at any time let alone the last couple of minutes. So he simply bowled the ball out to the full back that Monty should have been with, who then ran the length of the pitch to win the free kick when Monty had to chase him down. Brown has been immense for us, but that mistake to come out for the free kick was a rush of blood and a howler. But he’s been so good for us that he probably gets a pass for that mistake. I thought Legge, Smith, Gibbons and Worrall were excellent for us yet again. Joyce did well and covered a lot of ground in an overloaded midfield.  Bennetts cameo was good and should have been better with a second goal. Monty despite his part in the goal had a decent game I felt, maybe even more effective than Amoo at times, but I still feel that Worrall should be nailed on in that right wing spot once Manny is fit or we get in a replacement for him whilst injured. 

 

Off the pitch.... The facilities are inadequate for a large following. Not enough refreshment bars and toilets outside. One small block of toilets was open but not plumbed in yet apparently. Grim. People were being told no smoking outside and there was no designated smoking are, that was causing some aggro for the stewards. Only one entrance in and out of the end which was a choke point.  I’m not sure that stand held as many as the tickets they sold either, because once everyone who got there late couldn’t find a space they stood in the clearly marked area for no standing at the front on the barrier behind the goal, thus blocking the view of those people and families who had got there early with kids on the first barrier on the first terrace step. I saw quite a few heated arguments going on around me because of that, indeed the people doing the complaining were getting  abuse from the lads who had come late and had clearly had a few beers. Stewards weren’t interested either. Salford have come a long way quickly and aren’t ready off the pitch for that step up to this league yet. In fact the whole thing has a temporary feel about it. 

 

For those that didn’t go and listened on the radio, what was the feeling on the there in terms of the team performance and individuals, was it Sproson at the match?

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15 hours ago, Emile said:

It'll come. Maybe not this season but it'll come. A more creative midfielder should be brought in as well as a left back. Squad is pretty balanced then 

The budget will get better with each season,we are improving,if it wasn't for a dodgy corner kick v Northampton and Browns mistake yesterday it COULD of been a fantastic start.We can allow Brown a mistake considering how many points he wins us.

We are starting to play how Askey wants to play and creating a lot of chances,putting them away is the problem,someone will get a good walloping soon imo,we have had a tough start and to remain unbeaten is at least something.

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9 hours ago, TylerB said:

 

Clearly we are showing we can compete with anyone in this league. Just need a bit more luck and compusure in front of goal and we'll do o'rate this season. If nothing else we are proving hard to beat and that's a fair improvement on what we have been used to. 

Cullen and Pope up top in midweek please, John. 

I agree,set out with the two up top in home games and set up how we do away

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Disappointed that we cannot turn our chances into goals. We are certainly pressing more and look dangerous when attacking so I'm hopeful the tide will turn soon and we will give someone a real hiding.
 
Yesterday we had chances to gain the 3 points. I think many fans would have taken a point anyway.
What is most worrying for me is that we still carry too many players every match that offer next to nothing in quality or nous. We do not appear to be working well as a team, whereas Salford all looked up for it.
Our coaching in respect of throw ins is absolutely abysmal. We never gain any advantage from throw in and no one wants to create a space for the thrower to throw to. time after time we lose the ball and allow the opponents momentum.
IMO Leon Legge was immense yesterday. Smith was solid alongside him. Amoo started excellent but faded. Worrall ran his nuts off again but come on he ought to be wide, NOT in the middle of the midfield.
Chris Neal was superb for them and thwarted us several times.
Tremendous support from the travelling Valiants even though we were penned in, in an inadequate  stand with facilities that were totally shambolick.
On we go and we are unbeaten and looking far more resilient but having said that we still show signs of frailties that need addressing if we are to climb the league.

When Worrall was out wide people on here were literally crying for him to be in the middle.
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The way I see things, had we played these under Aspin without Oyeleke in the starting 11 would anyone have given us a Cat in Hells chance?

3 points midweek and I think it's been a very encouraging, albeit far from perfect, start to the season. 

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Really disappointed to throw away the win so late, this is maybe clouding my feelings re the side.

It's no use keeping on saying we should have won/ we didn't and that's quite worrying particularly as we have had the chances to kill games.

Do we have enough attacking quality, I'm not sure. I am a bit confused as to why we sign 11 and start 1 (Amoo) with the exception of Crookes who was here last term?

We need a decent win lets hope its Tuesday.

Legge was immense at Salford

 

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With Bennett coming off the bench and scoring it can only be good for the team pope knows he needs to start scoring or he'll be on the bench. Monty is so frustrating gives the ball away so much he needs to push up more and support the striker especially when the ball is in the air take a gamble and make a run now and then past the striker

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4 minutes ago, windsorvale4ever said:

With Bennett coming off the bench and scoring it can only be good for the team pope knows he needs to start scoring or he'll be on the bench. Monty is so frustrating gives the ball away so much he needs to push up more and support the striker especially when the ball is in the air take a gamble and make a run now and then past the striker

We said that during the game too. He didn’t seem to anticipate or gamble when the ball went up to Pope or Bennett.

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2 hours ago, Jacob_123 said:


When Worrall was out wide people on here were literally crying for him to be in the middle.

I can’t understand people wanting Worrall in the middle at all. What does he offer there? Because he doesn’t score goals and doesn’t create them. He’s a strange one wozza is. Works hard like hannant but end product? 

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Gutted not to win yesterday - we should have had that game in the bag with the chances not taken.

Really think we need to be more street wise managing the game but what really pleases me over the past two games I've seen is what a good side we look WHEN we pass the ball. That 1st win can't far away then I think this side can get a lot better with a little more belief in the pattern of play. 

Was very impressed by our central midfield Joyce,Colon and Worrall who I thought where all excellent.

Love Pope but sorry can't see how he can be anything other than an impact sub for last 20 mins with the way we play, unless we go 442..Defo need another striker who can run in behind and stretch the play.

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5 hours ago, PV1973 said:

We said that during the game too. He didn’t seem to anticipate or gamble when the ball went up to Pope or Bennett.

there was one attack bennett won the ball flicked it on but nobody was there straight away he looked over at monty to say where the bloody hell are you, not just monty thought amoo or Worrall as well, same when pope was on the pitch he went over to the side of the penalty area to win a ball he won it and when he crossed the ball into the box there was nobody there the other 3 have got to anticipate and take gambles on where the ball might end up and we might start scoring more goals, the goal we scored yes Salford gave the ball away but all 3 were attacking together creating abit of panic in there defence

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4 hours ago, sandyford_valiant said:

I can’t understand people wanting Worrall in the middle at all. What does he offer there? Because he doesn’t score goals and doesn’t create them. He’s a strange one wozza is. Works hard like hannant but end product? 

He created yesterday's goal.

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in my opinion  they played Worrall in that role because he will run and run and run he broke his nose after 5 minutes but still played the whole game, he can get back quicker than anyone else and like someone said his brake set up the goal, I gave legge man of the match but Worrall had a great game.

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Worrall had a decent game in the middle yesterday , I wasn’t impressed with Salford yesterday the team or the facility’s at the ground . I wonder if there is an argument for keeping Worrall with manny in the middle when he gets back from injury ? I fail to see what conlon adds to the team tbh

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11 hours ago, dantheman said:

Stupidest post of the day would probably and should probably go to you. For shouting someone down for daring having a different opinion. 

Im comfortable enough to stand my ground and say I pay my money the same as anyone else. So IN MY OPINION I need to see more before I am convinced that we have improved. 

I find us really boring to watch. If I’m honest it’s hard work. And I’m not alone in saying that. We can’t take a throw in for god sake. That’s where my concern comes from. Simple parts of the game and we make them look difficult. 

Just to note Askey promised us high press, high tempo, attacking football and wanted pace with the ball on the floor. I haven’t seen any evidence of any yet. Only one of Askeys signings makes the starting line up yet the stand out performers for me so far are legge, smith and gibbons. 

Try to have a good day though Iron Curtain, I know how frustrating it can be when people don’t conform to your rule Mein Fuhrer.

I love that people think they can slate one or more of the following: the team, the players, the signings, the manager... yet you slate one of their posts by pointing out how stupid it is and they turn into babies that get all upset and mard arse about it.

Harden up snow flake... if you fly the flag for opinions be prepared for people to give your theirs! 

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4 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

I love that people think they can slate one or more of the following: the team, the players, the signings, the manager... yet you slate one of their posts by pointing out how stupid it is and they turn into babies that get all upset and mard arse about it.

Harden up snow flake... if you fly the flag for opinions be prepared for people to give your theirs! 

Pot and kettle come to mind.

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