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42 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vale-press-conference-reserves-3166240

What are everyone’s views on this? 

Seems a strange decision to say the least imo. 

It seems to me that the days of competitive 2nd string football have long since disappeared. The way clubs view reserve football is not what it was years ago.

If non 1st team games are not going to be competitive, then I see little point having them at all. Askey says that he can judge the standard of the opposition, but it’s still a friendly. 

It’s a strange situation where today’s clubs have more players than ever before, but less opportunity for fringe players to get competitive games.

What the answer is I don’t know. But more players on the roster and less opportunity for them certainly isn’t it.

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12 minutes ago, RailwayRowdy said:

It seems to me that the days of competitive 2nd string football have long since disappeared. The way clubs view reserve football is not what it was years ago.

If non 1st team games are not going to be competitive, then I see little point having them at all. Askey says that he can judge the standard of the opposition, but it’s still a friendly. 

It’s a strange situation where today’s clubs have more players than ever before, but less opportunity for fringe players to get competitive games.

What the answer is I don’t know. But more players on the roster and less opportunity for them certainly isn’t it.

That’s similar to what I’m thinking. The reserve games aren’t competitive when we play youth sides but similarly may not be competitive if we’re playing freindlies. 

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Older posters will confirm that back in the day we used to play a reserve team in another league - often 46 games - and they'd play on Saturdays and in midweek, home and away. We were in the Cheshire League I think and the West Midlands League, playing teams like Chorley, Ashton United, Rhyl, Willenhall and Lye Town. 

I thought it was great because if I didn't go away I could watch the reserves on Saturday at the Vale.

They often played the same formation as the first XI so when there was an injury the reserve lad often slotted in with no shuffling players around.

Happy memories of those reserve games.

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4 minutes ago, TheSage said:

Older posters will confirm that back in the day we used to play a reserve team in another league - often 46 games - and they'd play on Saturdays and in midweek, home and away. We were in the Cheshire League I think and the West Midlands League, playing teams like Chorley, Ashton United, Rhyl, Willenhall and Lye Town. 

I thought it was great because if I didn't go away I could watch the reserves on Saturday at the Vale.

They often played the same formation as the first XI so when there was an injury the reserve lad often slotted in with no shuffling players around.

Happy memories of those reserve games.

That boat has sailed I think. Can we justify playing our stiffs against non league opposition in competitive games while we're objecting to having Championship U21 sides in the Football League Trophy?

If John Askey thinks playing friendly games is worth a go then let's go with it. I'm sure if it doesn't work out he'll do something else. 

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1 hour ago, TheSage said:

Older posters will confirm that back in the day we used to play a reserve team in another league - often 46 games - and they'd play on Saturdays and in midweek, home and away. We were in the Cheshire League I think and the West Midlands League, playing teams like Chorley, Ashton United, Rhyl, Willenhall and Lye Town. 

I thought it was great because if I didn't go away I could watch the reserves on Saturday at the Vale.

They often played the same formation as the first XI so when there was an injury the reserve lad often slotted in with no shuffling players around.

Happy memories of those reserve games.

That was my experience Sage, you watched the reserve games to see who was doing what and pushing on for a first team place. 

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I think Bobby Mountford scored a lot for the reserves around the time I watched it but he didn't find first team football easy.

And it's true, it's not like a first team game. But at least it meant players having games every week, keeping up their match fitness in a competitive atmosphere, and trying out tactics and formations. I see both sides of the argument but if I was a player on the fringe of the first team I think I'd like to play 1-2 games each week rather than train, sit on the bench or in the stand, and play once every 6 weeks. But I follow Askey's logic.

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