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27 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

It's lovely, isn't it? Seasons come, seasons go and we still seemingly have 'fans' wanting new recruits to do badly. Wish Smurthwaite could have taken a few of our supporters with him when he <ovf censored> off.

I couldn’t agree more! Unfortunately in the obvious case I genuinely believe it’s only being done now as people have dug themselves a hole their ego can’t climb out of.

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19 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

I think the phrase football intelligence is an excellent one... one two fronts. 1) The general reading of the game and 2) knowing the managers system and how he wants to play.

I get the impression Hannant and Whitfield  have lots of skill and exciting attributes, which some fans love, but do they follow instruction and play the patterns that the rest of the team are working too!

 

10 minutes ago, SFBT said:

Suggesting that the Lloyd deal was lined up when the retained list was revealed.

Intelligence is something you sadly lack with your childish cartoon pictures.

Obviously Sol Campbell didn’t recognise that when he released Lloyd.

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31 minutes ago, Burslem Academicals said:

The comparison with Hannant is usefull as both are  hard working and mobile only Hannant was a bit of a headless chicked.

 

I think the Hannant discussion is a good one when it comes to Lloyd.

1) Hannant’s end product was lacking and best displayed by the stat that he had the 2nd highest number of crosses in league 2 last year... and when you are aiming for Popey and we were the second lowest scorers... that says more about his delivery than Popey ability to head a ball.

63 games... 6 assists

2) Based on what I’m reading on here, Lloyd will actually be backup for Conlon in the left of the deeper midfield three. What he has done though is free up wages to sign an actual replacement in Amoo who has better pedigree and better stats!

 

 

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45 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

It's lovely, isn't it? Seasons come, seasons go and we still seemingly have 'fans' wanting new recruits to do badly. Wish Smurthwaite could have taken a few of our supporters with him when he <ovf censored> off.

As Carol and Kevin mentioned in their podcast, there are unfortunately a few negative people on social media that are not helping get behind the #newera that most people seem to be buying into.

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I think all Vale fans would, without doubt, support any player who wears our shirt . Sadly, it seems that Ernie, would sooner ridicule certain, (or one) VALE  players that don't suite him . A  true supporter ????  

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2 hours ago, Erniemossrules said:

Actually my problem with Lloyd is that Askey released Hannant and put Whitfield on the transfer list then signs Lloyd who isn’t rated by Sol Campbell to be offered a contract.Considering they haven’t got a pot to p@ss In you would have thought they would have kept any player willing to stay.

A bit of brainless decision by Askey especially when there are now players coming available who could play in the first team.

I think you'll find that Hannant and Whitfield were released/transfer listed for non footballing reasons.  Also, Macc had 16 players out of contract of whom only 6 were offered deals.  Among those released was Enoch Andoh, highly rated by many on here but not rated by Sol Campbell.  Perhaps Lloyd had indicated that he didn't want to stay at a club that failed to pay his wages? 

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Oh here we go again. Pope bashing already... Pope will be the first name on the team sheet under plan A. Who you going to put up top instead? Sorry, second. Brown first.
I actually agree with Karl mate, I don't think Pope will be first choice and will need to earn his place. Which tbf I haven't got a prob with as it would show we finally have options upfront

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Seen a lot of people praising him after that game.

What was it that impressed you? Passing/tackling/dribbling?

I didn't go to the game so am just curious.

I just remember him as a skinny winger getting pushed off the ball a lot - men against boys at times. Assuming he's developed since then!

He went about his business well and didn't seem to give away possession much. Always looking to move the ball on and fast

 

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9 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

I think you'll find that Hannant and Whitfield were released/transfer listed for non footballing reasons.  Also, Macc had 16 players out of contract of whom only 6 were offered deals.  Among those released was Enoch Andoh, highly rated by many on here but not rated by Sol Campbell.  Perhaps Lloyd had indicated that he didn't want to stay at a club that failed to pay his wages? 

Also it's interesting that Lloyd has gone to a higher club than he was playing at but Hannant hasn't.

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7 minutes ago, butt lane vale fan said:
On 09/07/2019 at 14:53, toyahw said:
Oh here we go again. Pope bashing already... Pope will be the first name on the team sheet under plan A. Who you going to put up top instead? Sorry, second. Brown first.

I actually agree with Karl mate, I don't think Pope will be first choice and will need to earn his place. Which tbf I haven't got a prob with as it would show we finally have options upfront

Whoever starts upfront it’s nice to know we have options!

Thats the advantage of Askey going for Quality not Quantity and balancing the squad with some reliable backups like Lloyd and some more expensive options upfront like Cullen and Amoo! 

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12 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Also it's interesting that Lloyd has gone to a higher club than he was playing at but Hannant hasn't.

That’s a bit presumptious saying that Vale will finish above Cambridge United.

At least Hannant will be in the first team and not a bench warmer like Lloyd.

Lloyd was released by Sol Campbell and not offered a contract nothing to do about not being paid wages.

What don’t you understand about not being offered a new contract.

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1 minute ago, Erniemossrules said:

That’s a bit presumptious saying that Vale will finish above Cambridge United.

At least Hannant will be in the first team and not a bench warmer like Lloyd.

 

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1 minute ago, Erniemossrules said:

That’s a bit presumptious saying that Vale will finish above Cambridge United.

At least Hannant will be in the first team and not a bench warmer like Lloyd.

Not presumptious at all.  Vale did finish above Cambridge last season. 

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11 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

 

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Glad you are enjoying continuing your childish cartoons.

If you think or imagine I am bothered by your infantile efforts to get at me the only people you are peeing off are other people on here who see your pathetic  relentless cartoons.

Enjoy

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17 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Not presumptious at all.  Vale did finish above Cambridge last season. 

Wouldn’t say higher level they were in the same league and similar position.

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2 hours ago, SFBT said:

Suggesting that Lloyd was already lined up when the retained list was decided.

Lloyd was in at the club in the week following the last game of the season. Not saying it was a done deal then, but it was always on the cards. 

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20 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

...If you think or imagine I am bothered by your infantile efforts to get at me the only people you are peeing off are other people on here who see your pathetic  relentless cartoons

 

Nope - i'm enjoying seeing your likeness in cartoon form - don't think it appears to be moronic enough, actually!. As long as you continue your dreary attacks on a Vale player who hasn't kicked a ball in anger for us, for some years you should be caricatured as a useless numbnuts with some kind of problem. Let it go...give him and the team a chance to show what they can do and if...IF...you turn out to be right, you can gloat as much as you want and nobody can argue. But just let it go until they've had a chance?

 

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On a positive note, I spoke to an old colleague of mine today, a Blackpool supporter who has seen Cullen play many times. Thought we had made a good signing and told me Cullen was their best goalscorer, a natural who liked to sneak in behind defences, with a bit of pace, who had been held back by injuries. Sounds good - let's just hope he keeps fit!

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