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Stones has been making mistakes like that for Man City and England for ages, the majority of which he's got away with but this time it cost us dearly, twice, and it was always gonna happen sometime. Why the hell does Southgare pick him, he's a liability.

 

Shameful performance of epic proportions, England just don't have enough quality in the team.

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Trying to be positive for a moment, when you consider that we were without Gomez, Alexander-Arnold, Winks and Loftus-Cheek tonight, it shows that we have strength in depth in most areas. I think Cheek is an upgrade on Barkley. Walker is done at the highest level and with Alexander-Arnold and Wan-Bissaka around I think his days as an England regular are numbered thankfully.

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Stones has been making mistakes like that for Man City and England for ages, the majority of which he's got away with but this time it cost us dearly, twice, and it was always gonna happen sometime. Why the hell does Southgare pick him, he's a liability.

 

Shameful performance of epic proportions, England just don't have enough quality in the team.

 

We have more than enough quality to compete with Holland. We lost the game more than they won it.

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We have more than enough quality to compete with Holland. We lost the game more than they won it.

 

England don't have two center backs of the quality of Liegt and Van Dyck, don't have a quality midfield player like De Jong to name just three players. We lost and were out played for much of the game.

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England don't have two center backs of the quality of Liegt and Van Dyck, don't have a quality midfield player like De Jong to name just three players. We lost and were out played for much of the game.

 

Absolute nonsense. Yes, they kept the ball better than we did but pretty much all of their chances came from our own mistakes. We were also literally half a foot away from making a final and knocking them out. You've named their best three players but after those three there's not one Dutch player that would get in our 11 with the exception of the keeper. You could make a case for Wijnaldum probably but I wouldn't say he's a better player than Loftus-Cheek, who obviously didn't play tonight.

 

I'd rather have our squad than theirs, regardless of how good Van Dijk and de Jong are. De Lijt is good at what he does but he constantly gets megged and has been at fault for a few goals I've seen when watching Ajax/Holland play. But because he shouts a lot and looks older than his age, he can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

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Although he did some nice things last night, I still think it's a bit early for Sancho as a starter on the International stage. As of right now it has to be a front three of Kane, Rashford and Sterling when everybody is fit, with Sancho and Hudson-Odoi used as impact players.

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In 12 months time at the Euros we have got to be playing Alexander-Arnold at right-back & Joe Gomez at centre-back. Stones should not even make the squad.

 

Couldn't agree more. I used to rate Stones a few years back and expected him to iron out the mistakes he was often making back then, but he just hasn't progressed and simply isn't learning. He was also bent over by De Lijt all night long from corners last night. Harry Kane isn't any bigger physically than Stones and yet he made De Lijt his bitch on a few occasions when he knocked him off the ball.

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Although he did some nice things last night, I still think it's a bit early for Sancho as a starter on the International stage. As of right now it has to be a front three of Kane, Rashford and Sterling when everybody is fit, with Sancho and Hudson-Odoi used as impact players.[/quote

 

Was Sterling on the pitch last night?

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The best thing for me about last night was listening to the French commentary (I was in a hotel in Strasbourg) which confirmed that ‘Ello ‘Ello wasn’t far off the truth - Harree Mag-wee-yah, Marcoos Rochéfort and Djordan On-deer-sone were on the pitch apparently (Notice I didn’t say “played”. That would be pushing it).

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