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The Myth that is Tom Pope


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It’s not his fault as others have said that we don’t play a system that suits his somewhat one dimensional style.

 

I thought that you understood a little bit about football REP but that comment about Popey reveals that in regard to Tom you know nowt if you believe that looking back at his own goal with two and three monsters hitting him in his back each time the ball is bashed up in his direction is the way he likes to play. No Popey thrives on crosses but unfortunately the current service from the wings is virtually non existent. Remember the chant 'Feed the Pope and he will score' the clue as to how Tom likes to play is in the words.

 

This thread is so disrespectful to the man who has carried and saved us so many times quite frankly disgusts me!

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It certainly is and as usual the Repettes are out in force.Pope led the line brilliantly Saturday, was unlucky with the penalty because of the ever increasing incompetent officials who now referee our games.I expect a hard fort game tomorrow with Popey leading the line to victory and ease the pressure on everything Port vale.

 

"Never fail always Vale".

 

How did that have an imapact on his penalty? Excuses as usual for sir tom pope. Anyone else it’s a **** penalty. Vale fans never change.

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I thought that you understood a little bit about football REP but that comment about Popey reveals that in regard to Tom you know nowt if you believe that looking back at his own goal with two and three monsters hitting him in his back each time the ball is bashed up in his direction is the way he likes to play. No Popey thrives on crosses but unfortunately the current service from the wings is virtually non existent. Remember the chant 'Feed the Pope and he will score' the clue as to how Tom likes to play is in the words.

 

This thread is so disrespectful to the man who has carried and saved us so many times quite frankly disgusts me!

 

How is it? This is what really grinds me about some fans. Why isn’t he allowed to be criticised? What’s he done this season that’s been so good? It’s not at all disrespectful and it’s certainly not bloody disgusting!! I remember the chant yes. The key word there is remember.

 

Strange how every manager plays that way when pope plays. But obviously you know better than them that pope dosent like that style of football.

 

We play one dimensional crap when he plays. I’m not saying that’s his fault but we do.

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I thought that you understood a little bit about football REP but that comment about Popey reveals that in regard to Tom you know nowt if you believe that looking back at his own goal with two and three monsters hitting him in his back each time the ball is bashed up in his direction is the way he likes to play. No Popey thrives on crosses but unfortunately the current service from the wings is virtually non existent. Remember the chant 'Feed the Pope and he will score' the clue as to how Tom likes to play is in the words.

 

This thread is so disrespectful to the man who has carried and saved us so many times quite frankly disgusts me!

 

You’ve quoted an aspect of my post Owd which refers to him as one dimensional and then in your very reply indicate he’s one dimensional by suggesting he needs crosses to indicate what we all know, he’s exceptionally reliant on his team mates for chances or indeed penalties.

 

That would be fine Owd if we have various ways to play and create chances but sadly we don’t, you must watch the games and see we and he is one dimensional and Popeball is so easy to defend. We don’t have wingers so there is little or no point in moaning about it as a succession of managers don’t see fit to play to his strengths. I remember a number of posts by you Owd in early 2014 castigating JMW, the last class winger we had, I’d imagine even you and Pope would crawl over broken glass for someone like JMW now to get your boy going again.

 

When was the last time he produced a piece of wonderful individual skill to create and score from nothing, was it the Cheltenham game in the promotion season? He has to be fed as sadly he can’t go to Waitrose to feed himself, in the last two games he’s been fed the equivalent of two glorious M&S luxury meals and for some reason he’s gone all bulimic on us using your analogy.

 

You talk of monsters but watch him 10-15 seconds before he gets any long Popeball, he generally instigates contact and then moans his bonce off like a kid in a playground that he’s being fouled, it’s difficult for officials to justify the award of a free kick in favour of the player who initiates the physical aspect. And if he’s not using his hands and gob for that he’s constantly aggressively chastising teammates, with the notable exception of his mate Kay, easily the worst passer of the ball in the team which regularly includes Rawlinson.

 

It’s sad as all Vale fans want us to win league games and be successful but indirectly Pope and Popeball is a huge part of the problem at the moment as is yet another inexperienced manager at this level failing to use the huge squad options to change things.

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I’m pretty much convinced that Vale fans dont realise how good some of the local players are that are right under their nose. They’re determined to completely murder them. It’s the same old same old until they’re gone.

 

Going back to crossing in to the box, having watched the ManU Chelsea game last night. The goal that pogba scored from Rashfords cross just highlighted how important it is to have players moving in to the box when a cross is coming in. Hit the right areas and hope someone is on the move. Invariably we’ve just got Pope in there with no one running in to meet the ball, that would make a huge difference too if we had midfielders or other forwards willing to make runs in to the box when we get it wide. Look at Montys last couple of goals where he’s made a run across the defender in to an area of the box and luckily the ball arrived there.

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Can we please stop this ' it should of been retaken ' rubbish.

I'm no statistician but i'd say maybe 10% or less are retaken.

 

I certainly wasn't screaming for a retake. Be interesting to see the Brown save at Morecambe in slow motion to see if he moved , or was he the ultimate gentleman and stood still ?

 

Complete excuse on our parts.

A poor penalty but even Messi missed one on Saturday , it happens.

 

Pope needs bodies around him and runners, something we sadly lack.

Only downfall for me is his petty fouls and arm flailing, he did an absolute ridiculous foul on Saturday with a couple of minutes left out of sheer petulance.

 

We need Pope or we are down, probably down even with him anyway.

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You’ve quoted an aspect of my post Owd which refers to him as one dimensional and then in your very reply indicate he’s one dimensional by suggesting he needs crosses to indicate what we all know, he’s exceptionally reliant on his team mates for chances or indeed penalties.

 

That would be fine Owd if we have various ways to play and create chances but sadly we don’t, you must watch the games and see we and he is one dimensional and Popeball is so easy to defend. We don’t have wingers so there is little or no point in moaning about it as a succession of managers don’t see fit to play to his strengths. I remember a number of posts by you Owd in early 2014 castigating JMW, the last class winger we had, I’d imagine even you and Pope would crawl over broken glass for someone like JMW now to get your boy going again.

 

When was the last time he produced a piece of wonderful individual skill to create and score from nothing, was it the Cheltenham game in the promotion season? He has to be fed as sadly he can’t go to Waitrose to feed himself, in the last two games he’s been fed the equivalent of two glorious M&S luxury meals and for some reason he’s gone all bulimic on us using your analogy.

 

You talk of monsters but watch him 10-15 seconds before he gets any long Popeball, he generally instigates contact and then moans his bonce off like a kid in a playground that he’s being fouled, it’s difficult for officials to justify the award of a free kick in favour of the player who initiates the physical aspect. And if he’s not using his hands and gob for that he’s constantly aggressively chastising teammates, with the notable exception of his mate Kay, easily the worst passer of the ball in the team which regularly includes Rawlinson.

 

It’s sad as all Vale fans want us to win league games and be successful but indirectly Pope and Popeball is a huge part of the problem at the moment as is yet another inexperienced manager at this level failing to use the huge squad options to change things.

You are right about JMW but at the time I found it infuriating that he usually played out on the right when he was more left footed than Long John Silver. I criticised him because he preferred to cut inside rather than cross the ball and though he scored a few screamers decent full backs soon realised to force him onto his right foot and he was scuppered. I must admit though that he was a prince compared to what we have today.

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You are right about JMW but at the time I found it infuriating that he usually played out on the right when he was more left footed than Long John Silver. I criticised him because he preferred to cut inside rather than cross the ball and though he scored a few screamers decent full backs soon realised to force him onto his right foot and he was scuppered. I must admit though that he was a prince compared to what we have today.

 

What we have today mate is eye wateringly abysmal.

 

Please as professionals Vale pull something out second half.

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There's a lot of long ball in the Premiership never mind at Vale,our problem has been playing pope as a lone striker and expecting him to do all the donkey work and then to get in the box to score,ever likely he's suffering with injuries the bloke must be shattered.

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There's a lot of long ball in the Premiership never mind at Vale,our problem has been playing pope as a lone striker and expecting him to do all the donkey work and then to get in the box to score,ever likely he's suffering with injuries the bloke must be shattered.

 

Thought he could walk on water? Poor popey 🤣

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