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Whilst this may not be any marker of success, one of his university team mates has just been drafted into the New York Red Bulls team.

 

Where is Ben Williamson playing now

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Lest we forget.

The maestro spotted Ian Taylor aged 24 and Andy Jones aged 22.

The moan a minute brigade would be well up for it if we were signing them now.

Patience.

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I honestly wouldn't consider doing a deal with Villa to swap Clark with Gibbons. It would be nice to keep Clark for the season to play left back but if he is deemed above league 2 level then so is Gibbons.... and then some.

 

JRC, I know you're not comparing Gibbons to Clark but I'm not convinced Aspin doesn't assume Clark is better because he is on Villa's books.

I suspect Aspin's main problem with Gibbons is he ain't very tall. A lot of goals at this level from corners and free kicks.

Gibbons may as well go out on loan if he’s going to keep being messed about by Aspin. We all know we’ve got a potentially decent full back on our books, one we should be developing. In addition if Aspins cautious philosophy is to also play centre halves there because of height then why bother keep Gibbons at all. As a club they either rate him as our long term full back option or they don’t and also accept that by the nature of the position not all full backs are going to be 6 foot plus and able to get up and down the wing all game.

 

The worst part of all this is that apparently we lost out to Cheltenham for Billy Waters. He turned us down in the summer and has been a bit-part player for the Cobblers ever since. I can't see why we wouldn't be interested in him as he can play wide or upfront with plenty of pace, and scored a cracker against us at Cambridge last season. To me, this sends a huge message - Cheltenham are serious about escaping the drop zone and we can't or won't compete. I'll wait and see who we sign instead but, so far, this is depressing news.

I’m looking at it in this way, we will not drop Pope, so no player has a chance of dislodging him as first choice and in addition we dont really play with 2 up front. Also we play a narrow formation and don’t really play with wide men either. Clearly that’s been Aspins approach this season, no out and out wide men, and I think that seems to be his general way of setting up. So why would wide men or forwards come to us because if they did their homework they’d see how we play.

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We can't afford to have anyone out on loan, we only just have enough fit players for a match 18. We have absolutely no cover now after shedding 6 players this January.

 

think of all that extra money the owner is making with cost cutting he must have overspent at xmas

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Who scouted him?

 

He’s been on trial and impressed aspin..... so he’s clearly got some say on the matter.

 

you seem remarkably happy with the progress of our team, all in the garden is rosy and all that as you seem to want to try and correct everyone ...

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The worst part of all this is that apparently we lost out to Cheltenham for Billy Waters. He turned us down in the summer and has been a bit-part player for the Cobblers ever since. I can't see why we wouldn't be interested in him as he can play wide or upfront with plenty of pace, and scored a cracker against us at Cambridge last season. To me, this sends a huge message - Cheltenham are serious about escaping the drop zone and we can't or won't compete. I'll wait and see who we sign instead but, so far, this is depressing news.

 

Whoever we missed out on it wasn't Waters. The player we bid for his still at his club and we might up the offer. Waters was a rumour someone put forward on here, based on interest in him during the summer. I suspect Whitfield is now here for the same role as they are similar players. The 12 bids all turned down story is a rumour; although it may well be true we've sounded out player availability from 12 clubs.

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you seem remarkably happy with the progress of our team, all in the garden is rosy and all that as you seem to want to try and correct everyone ...

 

Complete opposite pal. Look at more posts rather than the last one or two.... noticed you ‘correcting’ me on a different thread about a point different to the one I made.

 

You think I’m happy with the situation? Your completely wrong I often get shouted down on here for being so down about the vale!!

 

As far as this signing goes. People are slagging him off as being another bargain signing. That’s fair enough but if the manager has had him on trial and seen him with his own eyes then he clearly thinks he is good enough. No debate there at all.

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We can't afford to have anyone out on loan, we only just have enough fit players for a match 18. We have absolutely no cover now after shedding 6 players this January.

 

Cause they were all first team regulars!!?

 

Honestly not sticking up for anyone here(Norman or Aspin) but this board makes me laugh my sack off sometimes.

 

Miss out on a part time player from Ireland who we were paying a fee for - people go into melt down.

 

Potentially sign a part time player from Spain - people go into meltdown.

 

Can the club ever win regardless of who is in charge.

 

For me neither of these players is who we need right now. We need premier/ champship youngsters with some energy ala guy, Jones, howkins, knott( when he came on loan). Oh to find a Steve brooker, bridge Wilkinson, McPhee, togwell.

 

Common dinominator with most of aspins signings, are the are players he has seen during his time in non league and so far most of them will end up back in non league. Let’s hope it’s not with us.

 

Not against non league signings either, the mix need to be right though. Rudge was brilliant at having the right mix of old heads, steadies, gambles and prospects.

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Whoever we missed out on it wasn't Waters. The player we bid for his still at his club and we might up the offer. Waters was a rumour someone put forward on here, based on interest in him during the summer. I suspect Whitfield is now here for the same role as they are similar players. The 12 bids all turned down story is a rumour; although it may well be true we've sounded out player availability from 12 clubs.

 

So you're saying you apparently know the player that we bid for.

 

Without giving names and jeopardising any potential move, please tell me what league this player plays in?

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So you're saying you apparently know the player that we bid for.

 

Without giving names and jeopardising any potential move, please tell me what league this player plays in?

 

Aspin said they've made a bid for one player and they may go back for him but he's looking at loan options at the moment. I've absolutely no idea who it is. It can't be Waters because he's gone on loan so can't now be sold. So other than its not Waters take your pick from a 20 or 30 possible.

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think of all that extra money the owner is making with cost cutting he must have overspent at xmas

 

he's saving up for his holidays by creaming off all he can plus the cup profits his attitude is me me me and **** port vale

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Gibbons may as well go out on loan if he’s going to keep being messed about by Aspin. We all know we’ve got a potentially decent full back on our books, one we should be developing. In addition if Aspins cautious philosophy is to also play centre halves there because of height then why bother keep Gibbons at all. As a club they either rate him as our long term full back option or they don’t and also accept that by the nature of the position not all full backs are going to be 6 foot plus and able to get up and down the wing all game.

 

 

I’m looking at it in this way, we will not drop Pope, so no player has a chance of dislodging him as first choice and in addition we dont really play with 2 up front. Also we play a narrow formation and don’t really play with wide men either. Clearly that’s been Aspins approach this season, no out and out wide men, and I think that seems to be his general way of setting up. So why would wide men or forwards come to us because if they did their homework they’d see how we play.

 

I think you're right and that's one of the reasons why Aspo is struggling to sign anyone. But he has a choice. He can either decide to play a more attacking formation or try, unsuccessfully as he has to date, to grind out a point a game by playing hoofball. If he chose the former, he might well be able to persuade another decent forward to sign but he can't. Which is why it's so depressing to see us missing out on players of the calibre of Waters.

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if Elliot has any sense he'll go as far away from port vale as possible, whats the point of signing him just to warm a seat in the stand.

 

Could be the master plan to get bums on seats in the stands.

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if Elliot has any sense he'll go as far away from port vale as possible, whats the point of signing him just to warm a seat in the stand.

 

Perhaps we are still a better option than Spanish amateur regional football?

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